What are your frugal and sustainable tips and tricks?

The next best alternative we'd thought of so far is to run a garden hose through the house to the toilet. Then plug the side jets, and the drain hole, around the end of the hose. And take the flapper off. Then turn the hose on up siphon jet.

Or run a flexible tube down the flapper hole, through the toilet, past the cap and out the siphon hole. Drain the toilet. Wait until everything is dry, dab super glue on the end of the tubing. Then try to hit the cap with the glue spot. Let that cure. Then pull the tubing out through the flapper hole.
We took it outside and ran the hose into it from each side while turning it every which way. And turning it every which way without the hose running. And decided it must have the hole(s) in the middle of the wall(s). We decided, again, to replace it.

The day before, I went to Harbor Freight and to Mennards (Mennards usually has more selection in the store than Home Depot, Lowes, Ace, or general hardware or lumber stores). I bought two inspection mirrors, a chem light, a grabber, a borescope, and 5 ft of tubing I thought would be flexible enough to bend through the spaces and stiff enough to push through them.

Yesterday, I choked at spending the money, and tried again for a few hours with shop vac blowing and vacuuming, the tubing, the mirror, and turning it. Dh nixed using the borescope - even if we saw anything, it wouldn't help.

The tubing won't bend around the corners with just pushing. I tried anyway. The grabber is too weak and too small (bigger one was longer but not grabber part is the same). It is obviously less able to go around the corners than the tubing, so I didn't use it. And decided, again, to replace the toilet.

And, again, choked at spending the money. And remembered the idea of gluing it out of the way. But all day, I couldn't hear it rattle and it didn't come back where I could touch it.

So, I ordered the replacement. The same thing. In the same color - special order because of the color so it is not returnable or cancelable. I returned the unused tools.

Then, afterwards at the knitting club, one of the people said their son dropped the cap of a gatorade bottle into the innards of their toilet and they were able to get it out with bent pipe cleaners. But they could see the cap through the hole under the flapper. It took a long time of trying. Smaller cap too, I note. It doesn't matter anymore.
 
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We took it outside and ran the hose into it from each side while turning it every which way. And turning it every which way without the hose running. And decided it must have the hole(s) in the middle of the wall(s). We decided, again, to replace it.

Sounds like you put a lot of time and effort into removing that cap with not much but frustration to show for it. That's too bad. I guess that's why the plumber said it was not worth his time to try to get the cap out. At $100+ per hour rate for a plumber's time, it probably makes more sense to replace the toilet. Any idea how much time you spent trying to get out that cap?

:old Back in the day, I used to do computer repairs. But we only would do warranty repairs. People would ask me how much it would cost to repair their 2- or 3-year-old computer and I would have to tell them they were better off getting a new computer because the value of their 3-year-old computer was no longer worth the time charged to fix it. At that time, basically any home computer that was out of warranty was not worth fixing unless you could do it yourself. Probably the same situation today. That's why you just don't see any electronic repair shops in town anymore.

Nobody likes hearing that their 3-year-old computer is not worth fixing. But the reality was that they could buy a new computer, for less money, and with a warranty for less than what the repair cost would be.

⚠️ Frugal Tip - Consider Going Battery with Outdoor Tools

I used to get only 2 or 3 years use out of most of my outdoor lawn gas tools, like my grass trimmers and push mowers. The carbs would foul up over our long winters and then in the spring not want to start or run properly. It would cost more to have the grass trimmer serviced at the shop than it was to buy a new trimmer with a warranty.

About 15 years ago, I decided to try out some battery-operated grass trimmers and a small battery push mower. At the time, they were not as strong or powerful as the gas engines, but they got the job done none the less. Long story short, I still am using that same battery grass trimmer and push mower, but they work even better today with the improvements in battery technology.

Since then, I have expanded to using battery snow blowers, chainsaws, tillers, and cultivators. Never regretted a single battery outdoor tool purchase. Unless you make your living with those outdoor tools, chances are you will save a lot of money going with batteries over gas. I certainly did.

FWIW, I asked our local Fleet repair shop what people are buying. The professionals are still buying the gas equipment for the extended run time, but the guy at the store told me that most homeowners buy the battery tools. That sounds about right to me.
 
...Any idea how much time you spent trying to get out that cap? ...
It depends on which parts of the time spent on that toilet count as trying to get the cap out. Anyway, it would be a rough guess.

Maybe 8 hours off and on over a week's time looking at websites trying to find what could make a toilet have an intermittent weak flow to get to "might be the flapper or inflow mechanism."

Maybe two hours figuring out which model we have, which parts it needs. Maybe three hours figuring out how to clean the inflow mechanism (watching videos is slow).

Ten minutes listening to my friend's husband talk about how to fix toilets. Which directly led to finding the actual problem.

Three hours talking to my friend's husband, my brother, and my sister, and writing/reading here about how to solve the problem.

Two hours of me looking at options at Mennard's of replacing the toilet. Another hour and a half of going back to Mennard's with dh.

Two hours finding the shop vac, gathering rags and towels, figuring out how to plug the side jets, plunging it dry (many times because of the supply valve not working completely).

One hour trying the shop vac.

One hour (times two people) trying the hose from outside.

Two hours trying the shop vac again.

At least eight hours looking for how this model works, like where the spaces inside are, or anything else that might help. It might have been a lot more.

Two hours showing dh the most helpful pictures I found in that eight hours, and watching him play with the video of the water going through a transparent model... trying to slow it down enough to make sense of it.

Half hour texting our kids about any other ideas to try.

One hour looking for a plumber and arranging a service call.

One hour while the plumber was here.

Two hours (of two people) of trying outside. Includes getting it outside, dragging the hose back out, turning the water on to the spigot (it was after hard freezes so hose/spigot were winterized), and rewinterizing the hose/spigot.

Two hours (off and on for two days) devoted to dh talking me off the cliff regarding the neighbors filming us and the related frustrations of living near other people that were dragged up. And whether the people we bought the house from knew there was a problem and frustrations related to that.

Ten minutes asking plumber for a quote. Twenty minutes asking supply company for a quote. Ten minutes following up with the plumber after not getting his quote for six days.

Three hours trying again because I choked on the quotes.

Fifteen minutes to place the order.

So, about 45 hours of my time, about 7 hours of dh's time directly, unknown amounts of other people's time.

All of it would have been worth it if it had worked. The quote from the plumber is $1020 (materials and labor). That is (would have been) more than $20 per hour; more than I made at any of the jobs I've had even if I don't count things like taxes and the costs of working.

I thought it was a lot of mark up based on the quote from the supply house ($742 for just the toilet) until I added up what else is needed, even besides driving over to pick it up.

I don't regret trying even though it didn't work.
 
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I thought it was a lot of mark up based on the quote from the supply house ($742 for just the toilet) until I added up what else is needed, even besides driving over to pick it up.

I don't have a good relationship with any local plumbers. It's not like you would normally need a plumber for years and years between jobs.

Last spring, our water heater died. I got a few quotes from local plumbers, and their markup was very high both on the material and labor. I guess I should have been a plumber for what they charge.

I ended up contracting a new water heater from Home Depot and they hired a local plumber to do the removal of the old heater and installation of the new heater. Home Depot took care of everything. Even better I saved almost $500 compared to the quotes I got from the local plumber and got a much better, higher quality, water heater at the same time. When you factor in the higher quality water heater, I probably saved almost $800 letting Home Depot contract the work.

I don't regret trying even though it didn't work.

Yeah, I have been there too. Sounds like you put in a lot of time and energy on that project. It would have been great if you could have fixed it. I always just get the least expensive toilets, around ~$100.00, and they seem to work fine. But when I looked online at toilets, I see you can easily spend over $1000.00 on a toilet itself. Certainly, worth some time and effort to try to fix it if you can.

:lau This summer, we were having a problem with our clothes dryer. I ordered new gasket slides for the drum and installed them. Fixed the problem for only about $30.00! Even better, I learned how to do the repair myself with help from YouTube university. Felt pretty good about myself after that.

:tongue Well, the drum slide repair lasted, but the dryer only ran another ~4 loads before the heating stopped. It appeared that the main dial failed and for my ~25-year-old dryer, that part was about $150.00. At that point, I did not want to invest any more money into an old dryer. I ended up buying a new dryer at Menards, on sale, and installed it myself.

:idunno Like you, I don't regret my efforts in trying to fix my old dryer. I actually fixed it fine, however, something else went out shortly thereafter. Most of the parts for our old dryer were no longer available, so I had to cut my loss and move on.

:hugs Well, Dear Wife really likes the new dryer. It has a number of upgrades from our older dryer. It claims to be more energy efficient, so maybe I'll see a reduction in the cost for drying our clothes. At any rate, I was in the doghouse until that old dryer was fixed or replaced. Happy Wife, Happy Life!

I hope you get many years of service out of your new toilet. It was quite a story and your efforts to fix it yourself are epic.
 
:tongue Home Depot Reducing Veteran's Discount

I have mentioned many times how I have taken advantage of the 10% Veteran's Discount offered at Home Depot. I thought it was a great program and gave a shout out to Home Depot when I could. Things are changing, fast, and not for the better.

I was in Home Depot this week and purchased a few items. I was expecting to get the additional 10% Veteran's Discount taken off the price. But nothing showed up on the screen.

So, I called for help at the checkout and the lady enters in all my information. She says my Veteran's Discount was applied, but all I see is the same price. I ask her how much the Veteran's Discount was, and she says nothing on this purchase... but it was applied!? I hardly call that a discount if the discount amount is ZERO!

I told her that I had just bought the same items a week before, and got that 10% Veteran's Discount. Why not now? She said that Home Depot was changing their Veteran's Discount policy and many new items are no longer eligible for that extra 10% Veteran's Discount.

It appears that the only items that will be eligible for that 10% Veteran's Discount will be full priced items, and not even all those items either. I was told today that if you buy any lumber, for example, you no longer get that 10% Veteran's Discount.

:idunno It's too bad that the Veteran's Discount is being phased out of Home Depot. I always appreciated it. And it wasn't always about the little bit of additional money I might save on my modest purchase.

:old Home Depot used to be a much better customer support store even a few years ago. I buy all my Ryobi tools from Home Depot, but they no longer stand behind the products they sell and if any brand tool fails within the warranty period, they will no longer send it off to their repair shop. There are no authorized tool repair shops in my small community, so everything now has to be shipped off for repair/replacement at the customer's expense. I only ever had a few tools that needed warranty repair, but back in the day there was value in knowing that Home Depot would send off the tool and get it fixed for us. That value is long gone now.

:barnie Depending on the age, used value, and size/weight of a tool, it could easily cost as much or more than the value of a tool to ship it off to a repair shop in another state. Especially if that tool was part of a kit and you really cannot determine that true value of the tool. Are you going to spend $15.00 shipping on a 3-year-tool that might have a used value of $20.00? Probably not worth the time and effort, and they hope you just buy a new tool to replace the old one.

Well, I might not want to buy a new tool either now that I won't get that additional 10% Veteran's Discount anymore.

FYI, we have a Menard's in town and they still offer 11% Rebate off on all their items - for everybody. If you play the rebate game, you still can save more money at Menards because you also get that 11% on their sale and clearance prices as well. Our Home Depot does not get nearly the traffic as our Menards, but many of us veteran's shopped at Home Depot because of their Veteran's Discount program. Losing that program will be one less reason to shop at Home Depot, I guess. It's too bad.

I will still shop at Home Depot, but I'm sure without that additional 10% Veteran's Discount, Menards will probably be the better choice for most items I buy because they still have that 11% Rebate discount program.
 
I would rather pay more at a business that appreciates me as a customer, appreciates veterans, active service members, and all the emergency personnel who put their lives on the line to keep society running.

We usually shop at Menards, simply because it's more convenient. Home Depot is farther away and on a PITA to navigate road (especially this time of year). Now I have another reason NOT to go to HD.
 

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