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He's not a RIR, but he's not a Buff Orpington, either. Far too red to be a buff chicken. He looks a bit like a New Hampshire, but they should be redder and have green tail feathers. I honestly don't know what he is.
so did you find out what the white one is?
no problem, i was just curious. although she is too old and has to go, i thought if i knew the breed maybe i can buy another one, plus just knowing breed is great for me. being a animal lover!