What Colors Are Okay To Breed With A Splash Silkie

[brokenorchid82]

Hello Chicken Lovers out there I am in need of some help. I didn't know where else to post except here, I have a splash frizzled silkie rooster that I am purchasing tomorrow. I already know the number one rule is to not breed Frizzle with Frizzle, that being said I was also told that you could breed Sizzle which is a smooth feathered silkie variety to a Frizzle. My question is what colors are okay to breed with a splash and will I get frizzles from regular feathered silkies and or smooth feathered which they call the sizzle? I am not new to silkies but new to the color variety as I've only owned buff and unfortunately I had to rehome my buff flock due to moving and now that I've moved into our new place I have silkies which two are frizzled one is black and one is white and those are hens and along with another hen that is white and she is regular feathered silkie non Frizzle & non sizzle.
I have my boy that I'm picking up tomorrow pictured along in my post.

 

[Sneebsey]

Splash should be bred to blacks or blues, resulting in 50/50 of each colour if bred to blue, or 25% black, 25% splash, and 50% blue if bred to black.

A Sizzle is a Silkie feathered frizzled bird, so a bird with both genes. Frizzle should not be bred to frizzle, so he is best bred to regular Silkies, or, as you say, non-silkied silkies, which I have heard called 'Satins'.

From a Frizzle to smooth (or non-frizzle) pairing, you will get 50/50 smooth and frizzle; it is an incompletely dominant gene, so one copy of the gene has an effect (frizzle), whilst two copies has yet more of an effect (the undesirable frazzle).

Hookless, the gene for silkie feathering, is recessive, so requires two copies to express. Both parents must have at least one copy of the gene to pass on to the offspring. If both parents are pure for hookless (so silkie-feathered), all their offspring will be silkied. If one parent has only one copy of the gene, half will be silkie feathered and half will be split (carrying the gene unseen).

 

[brokenorchid82]

Splash should be bred to blacks or blues, resulting in 50/50 of each colour if bred to blue, or 25% black, 25% splash, and 50% blue if bred to black.

A Sizzle is a Silkie feathered frizzled bird, so a bird with both genes. Frizzle should not be bred to frizzle, so he is best bred to regular Silkies, or, as you say, non-silkied silkies, which I have heard called 'Satins'.

From a Frizzle to smooth (or non-frizzle) pairing, you will get 50/50 smooth and frizzle; it is an incompletely dominant gene, so one copy of the gene has an effect (frizzle), whilst two copies has yet more of an effect (the undesirable frazzle).

Hookless, the gene for silkie feathering, is recessive, so requires two copies to express. Both parents must have at least one copy of the gene to pass on to the offspring. If both parents are pure for hookless (so silkie-feathered), all their offspring will be silkied. If one parent has only one copy of the gene, half will be silkie feathered and half will be split (carrying the gene unseen).

Thank you so much! I heard Frazzles are bad and so he won't be paired with my two Frizzle girls!I'm going to have to look for some smooth (Sizzles) feathered Silkies in my area and I'll make sure one is blue and the other black. I was also curious can you breed lavender to splash?

 

[Sneebsey]

You can, however you will not end up with any Lavender birds. Lavender is recessive, so requires two copies to express, one from each parent. Many breeders choose to keep Lavender out of a line of BBS (Black/Blue/Splash), as the colours can be so similar in chick down and, due to it being a recessive gene, Lavender can be very difficult to breed out once it's in.

 

[brokenorchid82]

You can, however you will not end up with any Lavender birds. Lavender is recessive, so requires two copies to express, one from each parent. Many breeders choose to keep Lavender out of a line of BBS (Black/Blue/Splash), as the colours can be so similar in chick down and, due to it being a recessive gene, Lavender can be very difficult to breed out once it's in.[/QUOTE


What about adding porcelain in with a splash? Or will that make a huge mess of things? I was wandering because I've seen people with porcelain silkies in with their splash so I was curious.

 

[Sneebsey]

Again, no lavender or mottled chicks as both are recessive, but all offspring will carry bother genes. Ideally recessive genes should usually be bred amongst themselves or to 'clean' birds on their e-series, in order to avoid the genes appearing down the line.

 

[brokenorchid82]

Again, no lavender or mottled chicks as both are recessive, but all offspring will carry bother genes. Ideally recessive genes should usually be bred amongst themselves or to 'clean' birds on their e-series, in order to avoid the genes appearing down the line.

Thank you!
I appreciate you giving me advice and help!Im learning new things as I go. Thank you so much

 

[Sneebsey]

Good luck with him. I'm sure he'll produce some nice chicks with whatever you choose to breed him to. As he is based on extended black, he should be bred to birds which are also based on that e-series, to avoid any silver or gold leakage. If you're interested in the genetics behind his colouring and those of your other birds, I would have a look at this genetics mini-series, this more in-depth look, and have a play on this genetics calculator.