I believe this thread addresses our general desire to eat as naturally as possible. I’ve always adhered to the moderation stance and stuck with the natural(unaltered/undesigned) foods:sugar, flour,salt,butter,lard,milk,eggs,etc. Grow and can a lot of our own vegetables and do not buy any premade/ready to eat foods except for the occasional chips or pizza. Grandmother cooked with the above, grandparents ate well(we all did), and they died at 88 and 87. So, they, the researchers, can keep the sugar substitutes, play with the definition of what milk is, bad mouth eggs, and muddy the waters on fat. I’ll stick with good old God given food.