What did you do in the garden today?

[HeritageGoose13]

Hello everyone. At first I was going to make a separate thread but I think I will just put this here! I figure more people will see it. If you think I should make another thread instead, say so. Or you can make one yourself.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/354/661/966/stop-scotts-gmo-grass-in-its-tracks-now/

This is a link to a VERY important petition. You know "miracle-gro" "scotts seed" and monsanto? They have created genetically modified grasses. Round-up Ready Kentucky Bluegrass and Round-up Ready Fescue. Legally, they went through a loophole, meaning the government has not tested or approved these grasses in any way. Yet, these grass seeds will soon be spread across the country unless people stop it!

Their goal is to make money. If there is backlash they will withdraw the GMO grasses. If people knew about this there would be a huge uproar, but for some reason, television news has not said a thing about this!

So please, if organic, GMO-free or grass-fed food is important to you, share the news! Tell people on BYC and in real life! Tell the farmers you buy food from- they might not know. Tell everyone!

Once the grass it out there it will spread. What will happen to animals that eat it? No one knows. Customers aren't going to buy pastured meats anymore if they believe the grass is GMO. Family farms will go out of business... There is no benefit to GMO grasses at all. It has only been done so people can spray more pesticides and the companies selling round-up/round-up ready plants can make more profit. Do you want this grass spreading into your yards and farms? Do you want your chickens and animals eating it? Even if you don't buy the seed, grass spreads...

They only need a few more petition signatures until the end of the year. I am keeping the link to the petition in my signature until then. Hopefully, this petition stops the GMO grass. Future generations will thank the ones who prevented this...

 

[Beekissed]

Maybe that's the goal...to put organic, grass fed farmers out of business. What does that leave behind? Monsanto slaves.

 

[politicalcenter]

Nice! I love ice plant. Not perennial here. My green house has that heavy clay subsoil since we moved it off the garden. Hopefully, it's in a "permanent" location, but the soil will be a work in progress. First step is to turn the girls loose in it with about 2' of leaves this winter. Then, in the spring, I'll work on building up some soil. It's a hoop house, 8 x 8 with 6' peak. About 4 years old, so the 2 x 4 bottom rails are showing some rot. Plan will be to get it reinforced in place with rebar, and do only what I have to do to keep the panels from breaking through the frame. Eventually, it will need a rebuild. Will have 2 growing beds going the length of it.

I am building another greenhouse in a better location. I had a bunch of galvanized pipe and I bought some PVC 45 degree elbows to attach the sides to the roof. I also bought some one inch pipe hangers to attach the bottom pipe to the wood on the bottom. I have some old landscape timbers for the bottom and they are almost gone now...so the won't last long. I also have a large greenhouse refurbished into a pig pen and I am salvaging the channels to use to attach the plastic. It ain't very level and it ain't quite square but it should work.

I have been thinking of a heating system. It has come to my attention that soil temp. is the major consideration I am thinking of using a pipe system to heat the planting beds. I have a large stock tank "110 gallons" and I was thinking about circulating water through them in and out of the tank and heating beds on shelves to keep the soil warm. Things should grow if I can keep the air from getting below 40 degrees. I can cover the tank and if I have to...place a bucket heater in it. The top of the tank can also be used to germinate seeds.

I just finished one house and it does not get enough winter sun. The highest temp in the day has only been about eighty and sometimes it doesn't peak at much over seventy.
My plants just sit there but my cuttings seem to do pretty well.

I live on top of a rock. I have made my own soil using peat moss, sand, soil, manure and lime. It does work. But now may pigs make the best soil for me.

I like to put shelves in my houses to keep my plants on. It also keeps out those nasty fire ants. Anything on the grounds gets ants and they kill plants.

 

[BBQJOE]

Hello everyone. At first I was going to make a separate thread but I think I will just put this here! I figure more people will see it. If you think I should make another thread instead, say so. Or you can make one yourself.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/354/661/966/stop-scotts-gmo-grass-in-its-tracks-now/

This is a link to a VERY important petition. You know "miracle-gro" "scotts seed" and monsanto? They have created genetically modified grasses. Round-up Ready Kentucky Bluegrass and Round-up Ready Fescue. Legally, they went through a loophole, meaning the government has not tested or approved these grasses in any way. Yet, these grass seeds will soon be spread across the country unless people stop it!

Their goal is to make money. If there is backlash they will withdraw the GMO grasses. If people knew about this there would be a huge uproar, but for some reason, television news has not said a thing about this!

So please, if organic, GMO-free or grass-fed food is important to you, share the news! Tell people on BYC and in real life! Tell the farmers you buy food from- they might not know. Tell everyone!

Once the grass it out there it will spread. What will happen to animals that eat it? No one knows. Customers aren't going to buy pastured meats anymore if they believe the grass is GMO. Family farms will go out of business... There is no benefit to GMO grasses at all. It has only been done so people can spray more pesticides and the companies selling round-up/round-up ready plants can make more profit. Do you want this grass spreading into your yards and farms? Do you want your chickens and animals eating it? Even if you don't buy the seed, grass spreads...

They only need a few more petition signatures until the end of the year. I am keeping the link to the petition in my signature until then. Hopefully, this petition stops the GMO grass. Future generations will thank the ones who prevented this...

I signed it, so did my wife. I'm not sure if online petitions really do anything, but what the F.

 

[HeritageGoose13]

Anything we can do to show that people do not want this helps. The first GMO crop for sale was a tomato, but no one wanted it so it was taken off the shelves. Hopefully the same thing happens here- the only problem is none of the news stations are covering it. No one seems to know this is happening. Where are the big environmentalist groups? I haven't heard of any protests or big boycotts...
The GMO grass is to be sold as "enhanced turf grass"- people won't know what that means.

It is terribly misleading.

There are many many other GMOs being pushed for approval now. Many of them are intended to be released into the wild. Chestnut trees, mosquitos, and more. At least when it is a crop on a farm, you can choose not to purchase it. With these feral GMOs, that is not an option because they spread, whether you want them or not.

I am just glad I do not live in Florida. That is where they want to release the GMO mosquitos... As if that state didn't have enough pest problems- do these people realize what damage they will do to the state's tourism/economy if people find out there are genetically modified insects swarming around and sucking people's blood?

Catastrophic.

The important thing is to grow your own and be aware of what you're purchasing. Avoid GMOs and the companies that develop/sell them. Get your seeds from good sources and save your seeds each year. GMO apples and potatoes are now/soon for sale, so it is now a good time to plant apple trees and potato plants.

On that note- anyone know a hardy, productive potato variety? I want something disease-resistent.

I'm not sure if online petitions really do anything, but what the F.

 

[lazy gardener]

I am building another greenhouse in a better location. I had a bunch of galvanized pipe and I bought some PVC 45 degree elbows to attach the sides to the roof. I also bought some one inch pipe hangers to attach the bottom pipe to the wood on the bottom. I have some old landscape timbers for the bottom and they are almost gone now...so the won't last long. I also have a large greenhouse refurbished into a pig pen and I am salvaging the channels to use to attach the plastic. It ain't very level and it ain't quite square but it should work.

I have been thinking of a heating system. It has come to my attention that soil temp. is the major consideration I am thinking of using a pipe system to heat the planting beds. I have a large stock tank "110 gallons" and I was thinking about circulating water through them in and out of the tank and heating beds on shelves to keep the soil warm. Things should grow if I can keep the air from getting below 40 degrees. I can cover the tank and if I have to...place a bucket heater in it. The top of the tank can also be used to germinate seeds.

I just finished one house and it does not get enough winter sun. The highest temp in the day has only been about eighty and sometimes it doesn't peak at much over seventy.
My plants just sit there but my cuttings seem to do pretty well.

I live on top of a rock. I have made my own soil using peat moss, sand, soil, manure and lime. It does work. But now may pigs make the best soil for me.

I like to put shelves in my houses to keep my plants on. It also keeps out those nasty fire ants. Anything on the grounds gets ants and they kill plants.

Have you considered using "hot beds"? That's a system of using the heat in an active compost to provide the heat in a cold frame or a green house. Works best in a cold frame... which technically is no longer a cold frame if it has heat... But traditionally, there is a deep trench filled with horse manure (at least 18" deep) with the soil on top of that. The composting action would provide the heat. Of course, as the manure cooks down, it would need to be renewed on a yearly basis. What about having a compost bin in there, and running circulation pipes through it to take advantage of the heat. A hot compost pile can get up to 140* or so. You might even come up with a system that circulated the heat from pipes in a continuous loop running through the compost "on demand" or on a timer, heating up at night and letting solar gain take care of it during the day.

 

[shortgrass]

Anything we can do to show that people do not want this helps. The first GMO crop for sale was a tomato, but no one wanted it so it was taken off the shelves. Hopefully the same thing happens here- the only problem is none of the news stations are covering it. No one seems to know this is happening. Where are the big environmentalist groups? I haven't heard of any protests or big boycotts...
The GMO grass is to be sold as "enhanced turf grass"- people won't know what that means. It is terribly misleading.

There are many many other GMOs being pushed for approval now. Many of them are intended to be released into the wild. Chestnut trees, mosquitos, and more. At least when it is a crop on a farm, you can choose not to purchase it. With these feral GMOs, that is not an option because they spread, whether you want them or not. I am just glad I do not live in Florida. That is where they want to release the GMO mosquitos... As if that state didn't have enough pest problems- do these people realize what damage they will do to the state's tourism/economy if people find out there are genetically modified insects swarming around and sucking people's blood? Catastrophic.

The important thing is to grow your own and be aware of what you're purchasing. Avoid GMOs and the companies that develop/sell them. Get your seeds from good sources and save your seeds each year. GMO apples and potatoes are now/soon for sale, so it is now a good time to plant apple trees and potato plants.

On that note- anyone know a hardy, productive potato variety? I want something disease-resistent.

As usual, I'm signing it.


But, I hate to be the one to have to say this...

And I guess I have to start it with the whole dumb introduction..

My family produces organic crops. We also produce conventional crops, for 80 years we've fought over this very matter.

Seperating them us royally hard.

We have to keep organic corn 15 miles out in the boonies away from anything that can cross contaminate, it has its own water well to reduce water contamination, and no crop sprayers are allowed within 5 miles, especially upwind.

Guess what? Bees fly further than 15 miles, wind currents can carry pollen 100 miles or more, and the groundwater is already contaminated with phosphates and glysophate at levels exceeding standards.

You're already eating it, even in non GMO. Pollen drift and water contamination is already done.

It's too late, that GMO grass was test plotted 2 years ago in Florida. The pollen has already found the native grasses.


But not to fear! The great thing about us HUMANS screwing stuff up? Odd thing is, we tend to forget that there is a greater power at work out there and our bodies are mutating as well to fight these free radicals and chemicals in our bodies..

We just have to know how to circumvent it. Yes, avoid it. Grow your own food, ferment, keep your gut healthy.

It's too late to reverse the damage, but we CAN stop the progression of it.

Thank you for helping spread the word, and the petition.


PS..Why are they picking on Florida? Nice temperate climate, no freezes to take out their test subjects...anyone remember a problem with some pythons?

 

[Beekissed]

Quote: Yep...if you eat ANYTHING from a store, you are eating all these GMO byproducts and chemicals that are bad for you. No escaping that. A person does the best they can and then doesn't fret over all the rest. It's not worth it and it's like gagging on a gnat and swallowing a mule.

God is in control, we will die at our appointed time and not before and there's enough worry for today to worry too much about the trouble that may happen tomorrow, generally speaking. Do your best and leave the rest to the Almighty.

 

[politicalcenter]

Have you considered using "hot beds"? That's a system of using the heat in an active compost to provide the heat in a cold frame or a green house. Works best in a cold frame... which technically is no longer a cold frame if it has heat... But traditionally, there is a deep trench filled with horse manure (at least 18" deep) with the soil on top of that. The composting action would provide the heat. Of course, as the manure cooks down, it would need to be renewed on a yearly basis. What about having a compost bin in there, and running circulation pipes through it to take advantage of the heat. A hot compost pile can get up to 140* or so. You might even come up with a system that circulated the heat from pipes in a continuous loop running through the compost "on demand" or on a timer, heating up at night and letting solar gain take care of it during the day.

I have considered it but I may have a problem getting that much manure. My greenhouse in the sun should get hot enough during the day to heat the thing at night. I used to have a bigger one and it would get very hot during the day and the temp would be cold at night. But I am still considering the possibilities. I have a steel frame built.

I also live on a rock and digging an 18 inch trench would probably kill me. But raised beds with manure should work. And what about insects in the manure? Black and white fly's are always a problem.

 

[lazy gardener]

I forget where you are. What's your planting zone? How big is this green house? Is there room for a black water barrel in there to act as a passive solar heat sink? Or line the walking path with black paving tiles. My green house is just a cattle panel frame, 8 x 8 x 6' high. So, it has been moved a number of times, not a permanent set up. Though I'm hoping that it's current location becomes a permanent spot, until the bottom rots out, and i have to do a partial re-build. So, I don't worry too much about insect infestation. IMO, bugs will happen in that sheltered environment, whether you're introducing manure or not.