What disease causes failure to thrive?

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Feb 16, 2017
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I have bought a rooster at an auction 4 weeks ago, among other roosters and hens. This guy was the smallest, he looked to be about 12 weeks size.
He has been picked on by others and he was very cautious and jumpy and nervous but I never saw injuries. He found his way into the separate area that I made for 2 other birds that were getting used to being in the coop as they just moved out of the kitchen recently.
These 3 birds were getting along fine, even though I think my 2 birds are also roosters. One I am sure of now. I let this little guy stay in there since I thought he should still have been on the grower feed. A few weeks passed and we noticed that he was not growing while the other two did. He was hiding in the coop too and slept with the teens in a separate area at night. He did have normal behaviour sometimes pecking the other little guys or standing up to a challenge from the older rooster.

On thursday he was still running from the hens and he ran behind me for protection.

On friday I noticed that he was just standing there when I went in to feed and when I touched his back he did not jump away. He still picked up food from the ground. In the evening he found his way into the coop to the same spot he always slept on.

On saturday morning he went into the yard into the school area and he just stood on a rock with head pulled in. I picked him up to check for mites since that is what I have been dealing with on a few other hens.

When I held this little guy, I felt his crop completely empty. He is bone and skin. His drum sticks are skinny. I did not find any injuries on his skin but feathers are missing from the cuticles. I thought he was starving so I took him to the grass and gave him food and water and let him
rest and recover from stress. Over the day he did not move, eat or drink, so in the afternoon I started to give him water. He just laid on my lap and didn't move. When I put him on the grass he sat down. Over a few hours in the afternoon he became more lethargic and stopped standing. He laid on his side. His feet curled. Someone recommended hot pepper in the water in case of coccidiosis, which I gave. I pushed water with a syringe hourly about 15-20ml since I didn't think he was drinking.

He became very weak very quickly. I thought he would be dead by the evening. But he is still breathing and sleeping in a drawer in the house and his neck is curled under. His toes are curled and won't move if I touch them. His feathers are shiny, the only thing that is apparent is that he is very skinny and weak and lethargic. No blood or injury or mites anywhere.

If he survives the night, what can I give him to help?
I don't have any medication yet because I could not find a store where I can buy it but I will be visiting a store in the morning if they are open on Sunday and I will pick up some meds for worms and coccidiosis. We really want him to recover and grow. I think he would be gorgeous when ge grows up to adult size. He is purple and blue.

This picture was taken in the afternoon when we put him on the grass in the sun.

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This picture is now in the middle of the night. He moved his head to the back now. But none of these positions are normal.
He opened his eyes to see what I was doing but he did not move.

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Same chicken less than a week ago, with my teen in the back. They are always together.
 
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What does his poop look like?

It's hard to know if he is suffering from Cocci or something like Marek's.

Cocci needs to be treated with a Coccidiostat like Corid. IMHO, red pepper will not do anything for cocci overload. You can find Corid at your local feed store in the cattle section.

Mix 1 1/2 teaspoons Corid powder per gallon or 2 teaspoons of 9.6% Corid liquid per gallon per gallon of water - make this solution the only water for him to drink.

Keep him separated so you can treat him and get him back on his feet. It sounds like he was being kept from food/water and was under a lot of stress.
 
He is still breathing so I will try to help him. His last poop was yellow and black, not runny but not firm either.
 
They are all closed on the weekend. Even the feed stores within 2-3 hours of drive are not open and they don't carry medications except for vitamins and antiwormers. I asked around here where I can find a farm vet and everyone is treating their animals because there is no farm vet in this area.
It didn't stop us from getting animals but it is a huge learning curve.
 
Pepper is going to help him. Although apple cider vinegar might not help either, I've been keeping that in my chickens water even with no symptoms or sickness, and it keeps them very healthy and strengthens their immune system.

I agree with @Wyorp Rock , he was under a lot of stress, he was just moved to a new home, and kept from food and water probably just added to his stress.

Any blood in his poop?
 
There is no blood in the poop, never was. All of them were acting normal.
I was only dealing with scaly leg mites on some other hens but this one doesn't have that. I have been sitting in there spending for hours, tending to the coop, making it better every day, cleaning constantly so I was able to watch a lot what they were doing. I also listen to the sounds and run for every different noise to see what they mean. This bird got sick 3 days ago that I could see the first time and none of the others are showing any sign of disease.
I am surprised at how fast he went down basically over 1.5 day and he is still hanging on. Which makes me wonder it isn't coccidiosis. I have watched videos of Marek's and he never had balance problems, he never fell over, he basically just lost energy and can't even lift up the head, just lying there but he can swallow when I give lytes and sugar water. If it is a virus, there is nothing I can do about it. I don't think he is suffering as in pain, he is just sleeping. I give drinks every hour so he doesn't get dehydrated, with some honey or sugar and electrolytes. He is covered so he is not cold and he is outside on fresh air on the grass.
If he was starving I feel awful that I did not catch it on time. He was eating with the other 2 younger ones but he was always weary of the bigger birds and watched me with the other two as they sat on my lap and he was learning to trust to be around me. I think this was the case because on thursday he ran to me and hid behind me from the other rooster.

They were fenced up from the hens while they were eating the grower food so the hens would not snatch it up, and then I let them out in the afternoon for a few hours before roosting time so they would get assimilated into the flock and not get bored. The run is fairly large in a wooded area. I was planning to let them out on the grass all over the yard but I can't do that until I can make sure they are all safe and I can sit there to watch at least initially.
So, here I wait to see how it unfolds. I ordered some medications from Amazon, since that is my best bet, I don't see any reason to wait any longer in case I need some for later.
 
Your right, if it's a virus like Marek's there not much you can do. Time will tell and the only way to know for sure would be to send him for necropsy if he doesn't make it (which would be a very good idea).

It won't hurt to treat for Cocci - some symptoms include loose dropping with mucous or blood, loss of balance, going off feed, having an unkempt appearance and being huddled/fluffed up.


http://www.thepoultrysite.com/publications/2/Coccidiosis Management/43/symptoms-and-diagnosis/
 

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