What do I do? Really stuck, please help!

[Kiki]

The one with the lamp is happily asleep under it though. The one I’ve separated is squeeling at me, and the glow plate it’s under doesn’t even admit much heat

Pictures of the set up please?

 

[RoyalChick]

It worries me cause the plate just doesn’t warm up the box at all, even placing my hand underneath the tissue on the floor is practically cold. So unless I need to lower it some more I really don’t know. What do I do about the rest of the box being cold? I’ve just separated them from sharing the same brood but I had a cardboard cutout in the middle. The cage is quite high so it’s hard to part it without the chicks pushing it over. I’ll try find something that’s see through.

A mother hen is only warm underneath her. Chicks will run out into freezing temperatures and then back under her to warm up. Don’t worry about the temperature in the box as a whole as long as they have a little cave to warm up in. Sounds like that worked fine with the hot water bottle.

 

[Hatcher1997]

Pictures of the set up please?

One with the glow plate has been separated temporarily until my partner comes back from work with a bigger box, it’s not happy though.

 

[Kiki]

One with the glow plate has been separated temporarily until my partner comes back from work with a bigger box, it’s not happy though.

The heat lamp is down inside the cage?

It's hard to tell from the angle of that picture. Can you put the two chicks next to each other real quick for a picture? I want to see the size difference in the two chicks.

 

[RoyalChick]

100 is TOO hot. 95 is also way too hot for most.

I don’t have anywhere near the experience that @Kiki does but even in my limited experience I don’t understand where these recommended high temperatures come from.
My current little batch were way too hot in my bathroom. I like a warm bathroom so it was 70F (21C) in the room and they had a heat plate.
Day 2 they weren’t going under the plate but were sprawled out in the brooder. I lowered the room temperature to 65F (18C) and they were much more normal. Running around and scooting under the plate at night and for brief spells in the day.
Then I moved them to the garage which was about 50F at night and they were just fine.
My heat plate is warm if you touch your fingers to it but doesn’t warm the air underneath. I don’t think mine ever got exposed to 95F (35C) and I think they would have been very unhappy at that temperature.

 

[Hatcher1997]

The heat lamp is down inside the cage I don’t have anywhere near the experience that Kiki does but even in my limited experience I don’t understand where these recommended high temperatures come from.

My current little batch were way too hot in my bathroom. I like a warm bathroom so it was 70F (21C) in the room and they had a heat plate.
Day 2 they weren’t going under the plate but were sprawled out in the brooder. I lowered the room temperature to 65F (18C) and they were much more normal. Running around and scooting under the plate at night and for brief spells in the day.
Then I moved them to the garage which was about 50F at night and they were just fine.
My heat plate is warm if you touch your fingers to it but doesn’t warm the air underneath. I don’t think mine ever got exposed to 95F (35C) and I think they would have been very unhappy at that temperature.

I really don’t understand and to be honest the amount of conflicting advice on here is sending me into meltdown because I feel I can’t do no right. I’ve researched everywhere and everywhere says 35 degrees with corners they can go to to cool down. If it’s sprawn out underneath it sleeping and starts crying when I turn it off, surely it likes it? My house is very old too so this room gets Baltic at night. The original post was about my new chick attacking the Og one, and I’m literally stuck with what to do.

 

[SilverBirds]

I really don’t understand and to be honest the amount of conflicting advice on here is sending me into meltdown because I feel I can’t do no right. I’ve researched everywhere and everywhere says 35 degrees with corners they can go to to cool down. If it’s sprawn out underneath it sleeping and starts crying when I turn it off, surely it likes it? My house is very old too so this room gets Baltic at night. The original post was about my new chick attacking the Og one, and I’m literally stuck with what to do.

Did you here @RoyalChick advice on keeping them in the same box with a barrier between them? That way the aggressive one can't hurt the other one and the other can see a friend. It may help them get used to each other too.

 

[RoyalChick]

I really don’t understand and to be honest the amount of conflicting advice on here is sending me into meltdown because I feel I can’t do no right. I’ve researched everywhere and everywhere says 35 degrees with corners they can go to to cool down. If it’s sprawn out underneath it sleeping and starts crying when I turn it off, surely it likes it? My house is very old too so this room gets Baltic at night. The original post was about my new chick attacking the Og one, and I’m literally stuck with what to do.

Big breath. We have all been there. Chickens are sent to try us! You will get through this.
Between 35 degrees and lamp off is a lot of territory. Try the hot water bottle and/or the plate for several hours and see how that impacts happiness.
And in any case I think you are better off having these two chicks near each other because they will both need to learn social skills so I would still advocate a barrier they can see through.
And honestly I don't know where the 35 degrees recommendation comes from and my first lot of chicks I was paranoid about that too - but if you look at what more experienced folk say they all advocate lower temperatures and mostly advocate that only in a small area not just 'corners' that are cooler.

 

[Hatcher1997]

Did you here @RoyalChick advice on keeping them in the same box with a barrier between them? That way the aggressive one can't hurt the other one and the other can see a friend. It may help them get used to each other too.

Yes I replied saying I need to find some material to do so as the crate is very tall

 

[Hatcher1997]

Big breath. We have all been there. Chickens are sent to try us! You will get through this.
Between 35 degrees and lamp off is a lot of territory. Try the hot water bottle and/or the plate for several hours and see how that impacts happiness.
And in any case I think you are better off having these two chicks near each other because they will both need to learn social skills so I would still advocate a barrier they can see through.
And honestly I don't know where the 35 degrees recommendation comes from and my first lot of chicks I was paranoid about that too - but if you look at what more experienced folk say they all advocate lower temperatures and mostly advocate that only in a small area not just 'corners' that are cooler.

If I put mesh between them their walking areas will be very small compared to two separate boxes so I’m torn, one would have the heat plate and the other the lamp, and in dividing the crate the area for the chick with the lamp to cool down is a lot lot smaller.