I went to the Farmer's helper website and it stated that ultrakibble was only available in forage cakes. Where do you get just the kibble?
What do i feed SHOW BIRDS!!
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After 3 tries calling feed stores that are on the Mazuri dealer list, I "think" I got someone to order Mazuri gamebird starter for me. It "may be" in by Saturday. If they do get it I promised to buy all my scratch & grit from them. It is out of my way but worth it for them to special order.
And I may be out of luck with the foragecakes, except from McMurray. I can't find anyone local to order them for me.
I usually buy a local brand of feed from Lancaster PA., Pennsfield. The feedstores here have it readily available. I feed gamebird starter 25% and then, gamebird finisher 22%.
Brenda in PA
And I may be out of luck with the foragecakes, except from McMurray. I can't find anyone local to order them for me.
I usually buy a local brand of feed from Lancaster PA., Pennsfield. The feedstores here have it readily available. I feed gamebird starter 25% and then, gamebird finisher 22%.
Brenda in PA
I read that the protein in Mazuri gamebird is only 12.5% Isn't that lower than what some us us are using in MannaPro gamebird at 24% ?
Why would the Mazuri be better if the protein is lower?
Why would the Mazuri be better if the protein is lower?
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The issue is digestible protein. The Mazuri product is a baked extruded kibble. This means that it is more digestible to begin with. Moreover, its balance of amino acids and other macronutrients cover a much wider span. It's not an issue of gamebird feed or chicken feed nor is it an issue of protein by itself. It the quality of the nutrients you are feeding to your birds and if you are eating their eggs, the nutrients that are being passed on to your family.
A pair of Green Junglefowl could set you back anywhere from 600.00 to 2500.00 depending on the stock and if it were parent-reared.
Along those same lines, a pair of Edward's Kalij Pheasants are difficult to put a price tag on because they are a critically endangered species with a fairly healthy captive population. The ethical phasiculturist is feeding the best feed on the market not the cheapest.
These birds need to be immune to everything that comes along and reproduce viably with no health problems for the full ten to twenty years of their lives. If the pheasant and junglefowl breeders are using that kibble for species with a higher protein% requirement than is guaranteed on the label, I trust that is because they have an animal protein source, be that kitten chow or sea duck ration or ultrakibble to bump the Mazuri up to a higher level necessary for reproductive health, moulting etc.
Your birds are only as valuable as you make them. Same as kids so far as I can see.
To purchase the Ultrakibble by itself you'll need to ask your local farm supply store to call the company and order it for you.
If that store carries any C&S bird products the company will drop ship to your store.
The issue is digestible protein. The Mazuri product is a baked extruded kibble. This means that it is more digestible to begin with. Moreover, its balance of amino acids and other macronutrients cover a much wider span. It's not an issue of gamebird feed or chicken feed nor is it an issue of protein by itself. It the quality of the nutrients you are feeding to your birds and if you are eating their eggs, the nutrients that are being passed on to your family.
A pair of Green Junglefowl could set you back anywhere from 600.00 to 2500.00 depending on the stock and if it were parent-reared.
Along those same lines, a pair of Edward's Kalij Pheasants are difficult to put a price tag on because they are a critically endangered species with a fairly healthy captive population. The ethical phasiculturist is feeding the best feed on the market not the cheapest.
These birds need to be immune to everything that comes along and reproduce viably with no health problems for the full ten to twenty years of their lives. If the pheasant and junglefowl breeders are using that kibble for species with a higher protein% requirement than is guaranteed on the label, I trust that is because they have an animal protein source, be that kitten chow or sea duck ration or ultrakibble to bump the Mazuri up to a higher level necessary for reproductive health, moulting etc.
Your birds are only as valuable as you make them. Same as kids so far as I can see.
To purchase the Ultrakibble by itself you'll need to ask your local farm supply store to call the company and order it for you.
If that store carries any C&S bird products the company will drop ship to your store.
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What is your opinion of giving them cooked brown rice, barley and beans as a supplement? I cook a big batch, freeze it in smaller batches and feed it to all my birds (including Cockatoos and Eclectus) about twice a week.
Resolution those birds are beautiful.. what breed are they,? Just stunning..
And rodriguez , what is boss?
We have the ol TSC feeds and agway feeds and Im going down tommorrow to see if I can get farmers freind or mazuri .at this point they do not have it but hopefully they can order it.
Im very interested
And rodriguez , what is boss?
We have the ol TSC feeds and agway feeds and Im going down tommorrow to see if I can get farmers freind or mazuri .at this point they do not have it but hopefully they can order it.
Im very interested
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Brenda, do you have Agway in PA? Tractor Supply? They should carry the Farmers' Helper products. If they don't ask them to.
And again, ANY store that carries a C&S bird product can call the company and ask them to send whatever products that you are looking for. They'll just stick it in with the shipment of wild bird products on order or soon to be.
If the feed store is willing to get you Mazuri they should be able to get Farmers' Helper too. They really work well together.
Mazuri for the maintenance and Farmers' Helper for the supplement. Make sure that their scratch has no whole soybeans or peas as this is not to be recommended for birds that you intend to breed from.
Brenda, do you have Agway in PA? Tractor Supply? They should carry the Farmers' Helper products. If they don't ask them to.
And again, ANY store that carries a C&S bird product can call the company and ask them to send whatever products that you are looking for. They'll just stick it in with the shipment of wild bird products on order or soon to be.
If the feed store is willing to get you Mazuri they should be able to get Farmers' Helper too. They really work well together.
Mazuri for the maintenance and Farmers' Helper for the supplement. Make sure that their scratch has no whole soybeans or peas as this is not to be recommended for birds that you intend to breed from.
Resolution those birds are beautiful.. what breed are they,? Just stunning..
And rodriguez , what is boss?
We have the ol TSC feeds and agway feeds and Im going down tommorrow to see if I can get farmers freind or mazuri .at this point they do not have it but hopefully they can order it.
Im very interested
Make sure you ask for Farmers Helper. Farmers Friend is a different product I think for dealing with weavils.
The birds in the photos are Rapa Nui fowl from Easter Island. The little blackish purple bantam is a Lady Katherine Bug Baron, "a new designer breed ready to destroy insect pests and ticks in even the most delicate flower and herb gardens".
And rodriguez , what is boss?
We have the ol TSC feeds and agway feeds and Im going down tommorrow to see if I can get farmers freind or mazuri .at this point they do not have it but hopefully they can order it.
Im very interested
Make sure you ask for Farmers Helper. Farmers Friend is a different product I think for dealing with weavils.
The birds in the photos are Rapa Nui fowl from Easter Island. The little blackish purple bantam is a Lady Katherine Bug Baron, "a new designer breed ready to destroy insect pests and ticks in even the most delicate flower and herb gardens".
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Thanks for the reminder. It's the Purina Sunfresh Recipe. I've heard good things about it including on this thread just yesterday.
Thanks for the reminder. It's the Purina Sunfresh Recipe. I've heard good things about it including on this thread just yesterday.
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That's a good question. I would feel safer to raise guppies. Fewer nematodes and hard bones to factor into the equation. You can also control what you feed the guppies. So for example, if you decided to feed a fighting fish colour spectrum enhancer food to the guppies you would be able to tranfer some of that pigment enhancement along with the guppy but with no sharp bones of a cold water fish to deal with....Guppies only cost about twenty five cents a piece and they really do breed and give birth to live fry every other week or so.
That's a good question. I would feel safer to raise guppies. Fewer nematodes and hard bones to factor into the equation. You can also control what you feed the guppies. So for example, if you decided to feed a fighting fish colour spectrum enhancer food to the guppies you would be able to tranfer some of that pigment enhancement along with the guppy but with no sharp bones of a cold water fish to deal with....Guppies only cost about twenty five cents a piece and they really do breed and give birth to live fry every other week or so.
Mine got a tuna sandwich this morning..Not the same thing is it..... But they sure liked it..
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