What do you think I would get ???

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by josh1810, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. josh1810

    josh1810 New Egg

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    Ok, I am thinking about starting a project and I am thinking I might be right on this.

    Project: Rhode Island Red Bantams X Black Wyandotte Bantams

    1. I would think the comb of the wyandotte should stay dominate ?
    2. I also think that most of the chicks would be red ?
    3. They would be 50/50 wyandotte/rhode island body ?
    4. The leg color should stay yellow !
    5. Problem is, if they came out red and rose comb, yellow legged like a wyandotte would you cross them back to the black wyandotte and will they stay red or will they go back black ???


    I want to make a RED wyandotte Bantam !!! Where I live they are hard to find at flea markets and auctions just dont have them.

    So do you think I close to the ball park ??? Anyone done this cross or anyone got any ideas ???
     
  2. pastorwalt

    pastorwalt Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Well, you're right about the combs if the Wyandotte isn't hiding a recessive single comb gene.
    the chicken calculator says the f1 chicks will all be black
    http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html
    Are black Wyandottes s+ or S? I don't know.
    if S it will matter whether the RR is the roo or the hen.
    play with the calculator, see what it's going to take
    it will take a few generations to get what you want.
    have fun
    Walt
     
  3. pastorwalt

    pastorwalt Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hi:
    After more thought,
    Another color of Wyandotte, rather than black, would make your project easier.
    perhaps gold laced or better yet black laced red from Blue laced red stock.
    you'd be able to see better which genes are present
    and your f1's would be mostly red.
    Even silver laced, if the RIR is the roo all f1 pullets would be red
    just a thought
    Walt
     
  4. josh1810

    josh1810 New Egg

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    Ok, I think I got what you said....

    I also thought about getting a Rhode rooster over a white wyan hen.... from the VERY little I can make of the calculator the offspring would be red... take those reds and cross them possibly to a partridge hen, that would atleast to me get the redish brown color back in ???

    I dunno... I thought you might also take the red offspring and breed them back to the white wyan... they would then be 3/4 wyan and that might lighten them up i guess maybe like a (sport, pyle, red sexlink)

    I dunno... that would take what like 1 year to cross and to raise as many as i can and pick the best
    then another year to cross them back to the parents.... and etc....
    then another year to get those chicks back to almost full........ whew.... maybe i'll just try to post adds to find some.....
     
  5. pastorwalt

    pastorwalt Chillin' With My Peeps

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    One thing to remember with white is that there is more than one way to get there.
    Dominant white or recessive white etc.
    Not having experimented with White Wyandottes I don't know which
    path to white is operating or what other genes are hiding
    that said... you're probably right... just have to try and see
    or.. just go find some red wyandottes
    the long way sounds like more fun and more educational to me
    Walt
     

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