What do you think the verdict should be?

[mom'sfolly]

I don't know if your school has an honor code, but I think at this point he gets the project. If he was never given specifics about what the alternate would be, then make it difficult. I would also forward the e-mails to whoever at your school is in charge of academic honesty. I went to a small liberal arts college many moons ago. If anyone had pulled that kind of garbage, and documented it in writing, they would be on academic probation.

This makes me even more sure that I don't want to send my kid to a community college or to a large university. This kind of dishonesty should not have to be tolerated by the professors!

I feel for your situation. The kid is obviously a turd.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

What I would do is make another test for him that was harder because he has more time an you cant give him the same test anyway. Go threw the other tests an pick the questions that were missed the most an replace the ones that everyone got right. No point in asking him questions that you already know he knows, right.

If hes using more time, you get to use more time an your new information to make a better test.

 

[SarahBeth9394]

By changing the date you opened up the possibility of something like this happening. Suck it up, go in and let him take the test. Yes he's taking advantage of the situation, but there shouldn't have been a situation to begin with. Which is why the rules are the rules and being nice sometimes bites you in the butt. As a rule only make an accommodation to those who have an IEP.

I had a teacher who while in college was told by a professor that unless they were on their death bed there would be no accommodation for finals. He missed (can't remember why) so he had some friends who were pre-med or med students get him a wheelchair and they literally put casts on his legs and arm and he told the prof he got in an accident so he could take the final at a different time.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

I've read through the first two pages, and my response is to give him an incomplete. Since you did give the offer of more time, and did not state a deadline, he probably would win in a hearing. Technically you are supposed to give the final at the scheduled time.

As for what it takes to remove the incomplete, I see your choices as either giving him a final or a huge project where he basically has to regurgitate everything you taught for the semester. If you choose a final, he must take it next May, along with those who take the course next semester this would not put you to any extra work in creating a test especially for him, and he certainly would get plenty of extra studying time--enough so that he might well forget everything he learned if he is not careful!

Whatever you choose, you need to discuss it with the head of your department, and make sure that you have his/her backing.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Robin'sBrood :

FAIL! College is supposed to be about preparing for the adult working world, right? Well, how many bosses would bend over backwards for an employer who didn't turn in a work assignment on time?

Sometimes the hardest lessons are the best learned...

No, college is supposed to be about learning.​

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

I have WHAT in my yard? :

You are right about the problem of changing the date

But you did say they could take it either day. So he can take a final on the alternate day.

But, I absolutely did not tell them they could take it either day. I said more time as in more time that day! If you need an hour more I will accommodate you. I did send a follow up e-mail after the class discussion to make certain any members who were not there got the message, so it was in writing. Then we had a prep day which he attended and we discussed the deal again.

I think he knew and is trying to play it out because he was too tired. But, he has got me on the "change". I work for two schools. One is extremely controlling and picky. They take attendance of teachers!! No I am not kidding.

The other actually treats adjuncts as professionals. It could be an issue, but not really a big one. That is where this took place. My chair knew I was changing the date.​

Did you actually state it as more time to take the test, or merely as more time? If you did not include that phrase, it might be misunderstood to mean more time to prepare.​

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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[Sonoran Silkies]

I have WHAT in my yard? :

Sadly, citygirl is correct.

I have already told the dept chair what happened and while she is cool with the date change he is playing within the very strictest reading of the rules. He is most definitely playing me. An e-mail from him today stating that he knew I was not following the rules and he believed that this allowed him the chance to take the exam on either date shows me this.

I bent the rules for everyone's benefit and he is taking full advantage.

I still have not figured out exactly what I am going to do, I was up half the night alternating between being furious at him and mad at myself for ever thinking I should bend the rules to meet the needs of the students. And truthfully - I DO celebrate Solstice and want to be home that morning.

He is just a little creep in my mind at this point. And the worst thing is that he will learn the exact same lesson so many on wall street learned - I screw people over and I behave unethically and I win.

I am seriously sick over this at this point. If he had had any serious life event I would have been annoyed and dealt - getting played by a 20 year old who knows that my employment has no protection yanks my chain.

What suggestions did the dept chair offer? What would happen to the student's grade if you ignored the final (average the grade without the final)? Or average it with the final as a zero? Maybe reschedule for the day before or after solstice?​

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Email is a very real means of communication, and while a face-to-face well in advance would have been much better, and a last minute email is out of line, the timing is really the problem, not that it was email. Especially if as an adjunct professor she has limited time on campus. My son's teachers (high school, though) have almost unanimously said time after time that the best way to communicate with them is via email.

 

[joebryant]

Fail him.