What is a humane way ....

[ChuckenGirl]

put it in not boiling water but just hot or warm water

 

[ChuckenGirl]

do you have a pic?

 

[patandchickens]

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Please don't be offended, but there is a WHOLE BIG lot more to the aquarium hobby than typical pet store employees ever know about

I myself am not a crazy fish geek

but I have in the past hung out with those who are, so, you know, it kinda rubs off.

If you would like more information on fish TB, I did a quick google and this article seems to sum up the basics pretty well:

http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/management/Keefer_FishTB.html

Mind, people do not have problems with this real often, but if you have reason to believe you have TB in your tank you should be careful as it is not something you wanna contract.

Regards,

Pat

 

[dixygirl]

Wow i have some koi in a pond. How common is fish TB? Is there a treatment? How do you recognize it. Why not put it in a bowl by itself and feed it too much if you want to be humane. It will die of Thanksgiving.

 

[patandchickens]

The organism that causes fish TB may be fairly common. Its symptoms are a bit vague and not always easy to distinguish from other fish ailments. Quoting from the link I gave above: "the symptoms of Fish TB are usually wasting, lesions on the body, skeletal deformities (a few of mine developed curved spines), and loss of scales and coloration". Edited to add: there is no treatment.

I've had fish which I strongly suspect had it, and I have been told by serious aquarium hobbyists who generally Know Their Stuff that it is fairly common among pet store guppies (at least in the NE US). (Not JUST among guppies of course; I mention them only because the thread was about a deformed guppy).

You'd have to have lab work done to confirm whether a fish really has it, tho, and who ever sends off histology samples on their fish?

Look, it's not a great big deal, it's just wise to avoid fishtank water in open cuts or sores if you have suspicious fish (or in general, really)

Pat

 

[HorseFeathers]

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A toothpick through the soft spot in the skull, possibly? That is how we kill our tunas- thoigh obviosly with something quite a bit bigger than a toothpick, LOL. Those things are like 30-40 lbs!

 

[texasreb]

According to the American Veterinary Medical Society freezing aquarium fish is inhumane, unless the fish is previously anesthetized, clove oil isn't proven to be quick or painless and CO2 is accecptable.

I'm not positive, but I think putting a fish into a small container of water and then dropping several Alka-Seltzer tablets into it would be utilitizing the CO2 method.


The AVMA's guidelines on euthanasia:

Amphibians, Fish, and Reptiles
Clove oil—Because adequate and appropriate clinical trials have not been performed on fish to evaluate its effects, use of clove oil is not acceptable.

Carbondioxide—Amphibians, reptiles, and fish may be euthanatized with CO2. Loss of consciousness develops rapidly, but exposure times required for euthanasia are prolonged. This technique is more effective in active species and those with less tendency to hold their breath.

Cooling—It has been suggested that, when using physical methods of euthanasia in ectothermic species, cooling to 4 C will decrease metabolism and facilitate handling, but there is no evidence that whole body cooling reduces pain or is clinically efficacious. Local cooling in frogs does reduce nociception, and this may be partly opioid mediated. Immobilization of reptiles by cooling is considered inappropriate and inhumane even if combined with other physical or chemical methods of euthanasia. Snakes and turtles, immobilized by cooling, have been killed by subsequent freezing. This method is not recommended. Formation of ice crystals on the skin and in tissues of an animal may cause pain or distress. Quick freezing of deeply anesthetized animals is acceptable.

 

[2boxers]

I am sure I am going to make some folks angry but I am who I am and I can't rest until I say this.

IT'S A GUPPY!

Flush it already!

Oh man. The PMS stuff is a real booger.

 

[meriruka]

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That same thought crossed my mind too until I remembered people who said the same about the money I spent on my rescued chicken. Since then, I think that though we may not understand someone's attachment to a creature we consider insignificant, they have every right to want to do the most humane thing possible and should be taken seriously....

I vote for the Co2 method.

 

[Sonia]

In all honesty I am not attached to it in any way. I just do not wish to cause needless suffering.

If you want to know what a person is really like, do not look at how they treat their betters or their equals. Look to how they treat those that are inferior to them. In my book that includes animals. Even a guppy.


Want to teach a child compassion towards their fellow man? Teach them compassion towards ALL creatures.