What is a sapphire gem?

[courtsmarans]

Does anyone have pics of the Sapphire Gems as adults? Last weekend i picked up some chick, one being the Sapphire Gem and would like to see an unedited pic.View attachment 1260246 View attachment 1260247

Here's a roo, I for some reason don't have any hens pictures but here is one of an older chick. I

have found that this breed does NOT breed true.

 

[courtsmarans]

Anyone know how to tell the difference between the pullets and cockerels? I assume since they are sex-links their colours will be different as chicks.

Since this breed does not breed true I don't think you can sex off of the barred gene, at least I have not been able to. Only one of my cockerels is barred, while the other two arent.

 

[Mitsos Lamprogiorgos]

Cockerels have white spot on their heads when hatch. They become blue barred later, not solid blue.

 

[courtsmarans]

Cockerels have white spot on their heads when hatch. They become blue barred later, not solid blue.

I have actually found that not to be true (with my stock anyways) I have two very light chicks and two very dark chicks. One of the dark chicks had the dot but none of the light ones did and they are both going to be roos I think. Even when you are breeding these gems, I don't think you are getting "gem" chickens. You are just getting variations of them. I look forward tot he coming years when more people are breeding them and we are getting full grown chickens out of them. I think then we will understand what they need to be bred with to get the sapphire gem look.

 

[Mitsos Lamprogiorgos]

I have actually found that not to be true (with my stock anyways) I have two very light chicks and two very dark chicks. One of the dark chicks had the dot but none of the light ones did and they are both going to be roos I think. Even when you are breeding these gems, I don't think you are getting "gem" chickens. You are just getting variations of them. I look forward tot he coming years when more people are breeding them and we are getting full grown chickens out of them. I think then we will understand what they need to be bred with to get the sapphire gem look.

Dear, they are a commercial hybrid, a product based on layer strains of plymouth rocks in a blue sex linked way. They lay pinkish brown eggs of a large, extra large and jumbo size, they forage better than other hybrids and they burn out later than other commercial hybrids.
They do not breed true n color.
Their official site:
https://dominant-cz.cz/produkt/dominant-blue-d-107/?lang=en

 

[courtsmarans]

Dear, they are a commercial hybrid, a product based on layer strains of plymouth rocks in a blue sex linked way. They lay pinkish brown eggs of a large, extra large and jumbo size, they forage better than other hybrids and they burn out later than other commercial hybrids.
They do not breed true n color.
Their official site:
https://dominant-cz.cz/produkt/dominant-blue-d-107/?lang=en

Dear, I know they do not breed true because I have bred them myself. That is what I have been saying and why you can not necessarily base it on color when sexing.

 

[Lisa G.]

I have a sapphire gem - mine lays ENORMOUS brown eggs.

 

[The Moonshiner]

SGs should be sex able at hatch from the barring gene or lack of.
They are a hybrid sex link. Once you breed two SGs together they're no longer SGs or sex linked.
Some of this confusion is because Thomas is from Greece and is dealing with the true original stock.
Over here in the states we are dealing with what Hoover's started selling and labeling SGs.
Hoover's said they imported original parental stock eggs for their breeding program.
Something is amiss with what they have or were doing because they were producing non barred males last year and this year they're showing birds with red leakage which also shouldn't be there.

 

[Mitsos Lamprogiorgos]

SGs should be sex able at hatch from the barring gene or lack of.
They are a hybrid sex link. Once you breed two SGs together they're no longer SGs or sex linked.
Some of this confusion is because Thomas is from Greece and is dealing with the true original stock.
Over here in the states we are dealing with what Hoover's started selling and labeling SGs.
Hoover's said they imported original parental stock eggs for their breeding program.
Something is amiss with what they have or were doing because they were producing non barred males last year and this year they're showing birds with red leakage which also shouldn't be there.

The mother company is dominant CZ. Gold leakeage is because of splash color. Splash color can hide everything.
I have created a thread about utility black leghorns.
I need your help.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Splash doesn't cause gold leakage. Splash actually doesn't effort or hide gold at all.