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[CrazyChickensEverwhere]

I don't think its a big deal to kill water snakes. They can become a pain when it comes to chicken farming, they love eggs.

 

[Speceider]

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Neroidia (water snakes) don't eat eggs.

Yes, it is illegal, and you will not be able to get a permit for a bird you already have. If you have it in a predator-proof cage, it is restrained and you are in violation.

Recently they have changed alot of the rehab regulations because A LOT of people were getting rehab permits just to keep raptors. Now you have to either relaese the bird or have an extensive education program or the bird will be euthanized.

Clint

 

[dacjohns]

C&Rman :

Well if it does stick around I will be so worried about it if it has some sort of illness, right now it is in a predator proof cage. I was hoping to keep it and build it, its own personal avairy next to my peacocks. The good news is I found out that it is not illegal to kill snakes in Utah. I am going to have to find out about this bird tommorow. A person who worked with these birds in the Zoo told me I could keep it.

Snakes are classified as non-game animals and are
protected by Utah state laws. A person cannot collect or
possess a live wild snake without receiving a Certificate of
Registration from the Utah Division of Wildlife Resources.
With human or domestic pet and livestock safety concerns,
a venomous snake may be killed without a certificate.

Then I guess your extension service is wrong about killing snakes.

C&R, we aren't slamming you for what you are trying to do, we're just trying to make you aware of what you are doing and what could happen. You will get lots of conflicting advice and opinions. You seem like a pretty intelligent person. Use the power of the internet and go to the agencies involved like fish and game. You should get the best information there. It seems that most of us here don't do that. We use second and third hand information like so and so said. People will also say something is legal, it might be legal where they live but not where you live. Just because someone in a different state shoots birds "all the time" doesn't make it legal. Just because everyone in your area kills the snakes doesn't make it legal. Like someone else said, just because someone works in a zoo doesn't make them an expert.


I understand you getting overwhelmed. It sounds from your posts that you are young. If that is correct then you don't have the experience or knowledge to sort through what everyone is telling without getting overwhelmed. Most of us want to help but we often don't have the right information. That is why I'm advising you to go to the proper agency.

Good luck to you and the cormorant.​

 

[C&Rman]

OK I opened the door to his pen and he is still in there. I opened it about an hour ago and he isn't coming out he is on his water tub cleaning himself. I didn't mean to make this such a big deal I just wanted to find out what he was.

Thank you to all the people who told me what he was, I hope I see more of these birds in Utah.

 

[dacjohns]

Good luck to you. Your chances are good at seeing more of them, especially around the lakes along the front and in the east of the front.

 

[Funsizeracing]

Ok, can someone tell us "urban poultry" owners what a "coot" is please?

 

[THunter]

You could probably get in less trouble shooting a government guy coming to check to see if you have migratory birds than you could for having the birds.

 

[THunter]

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It is a slate colored water bird. Similar to a duck but different. Very aggravating on duck hunts. Or, what we used to refer to my granddad as. He was an Old Coot!

 

[dacjohns]

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Google is a really great tool. It even has pictures. Much easier than trying to describe.

 

[CrazyChickensEverwhere]

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Neroidia (water snakes) don't eat eggs.

Yes, it is illegal, and you will not be able to get a permit for a bird you already have. If you have it in a predator-proof cage, it is restrained and you are in violation.

Recently they have changed alot of the rehab regulations because A LOT of people were getting rehab permits just to keep raptors. Now you have to either relaese the bird or have an extensive education program or the bird will be euthanized.

Clint

I meant snales in general.