What is wrong with people?

[mchl]

This world is ful of sadistic people and people that cant keep out of others lives. Its a shame that they had to post this. That being said dead is dead, the injection vs the bullet is easier on the person doing it and someone reading the storys mind. But people that growing up on a farm or in rural settings have to deal with death and killing animals from very young. so it being sad it is necessary some times because maybe you dont have themoney to call a vet for every little thing so you take care of it yourself. But that doesnt give me a right to push my beliefs on you, just like if you dont like it you should not push on me.

 

[AussieAcres]

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Injection means no blood, no BOOM. Much more peaceful..for the witnesses. Dead is dead.

It's sad no matter how you look at it.

It's true, euthanasia is more peaceful primarily for the observer, and there is nothing wrong with that. Some people cannot stomach death, and euthanasia caters to these people. However, it does not mean one is more humane than the other. this is a phrase that has been capitalized on by drug companies, and people of a "weaker stomach" for a long time. The reality of it is, killing is killing.

A lethal injection is usually a dose of pentobarbital or sodium thiopental fallowing an initial injection that usually renders the pet unconscious or numb. It is simply a means of allowing the owner the chance to say goodbye to a live pet without their emotions stressing the pet. The injection causes quick respiratory then cardiac arrest. The origin of the terms peaceful, gentle, and merciful when related to euthanasia are traced back to the companies who produce and of course SELL the drug.

On the flip side of it, when talking the use of a firearm (which has also been exploited as a "BAD" thing in media) it has the same end result to the animal. When done properly, with the bullet directed down the spine through the medulla oblongata the death is instant. Meaning, the central nervous system is shut down before the pain receptors can ever get a signal initiating a pain response. In other words, it happens so fast the animal is dead before it even has a chance to feel pain or know it is dying.

 

[Hollywood Chickens]

I agree that dead is dead no matter how you do it, it is still killing.
Even if the person did kill the dog and didn't just get the picture of the web or photo shop (I could photo shop a picture like that) I guess the logic is that if I can't feed it it will die so better now and fast then slowly starving.
Flaggers are awful I have had so many ads removed from CL thanks to flaggers and I have had to let some roosters loose on tree farms and such because no one even got to see the ads before they were flagged and I had to get them out. I have no doubt that the roosters ended up being something or someones (saw a homeless guy kill and cook one on the spot) dinner.

 

[AussieAcres]

OK...I get that people are flagging them, and I know what that means...BUT my question (may be somewhat ignorant of a question) but WHY are people flagging them? I mean what reasoning do you think is behind it?

 

[LaBaze]

Whats wrong with people???? Everything is wrong with people!!!! We rescued a wolfdog a while back from a house that the people had moved out and left this wolfdog and two pitts tied to a tree left to starve. Someone else took the pitbulls but the wolfdog was so bad we didnt think he would make it! People are cruel and thats all i can say.

 

[eggbuster]

This is a RANT; I am not picking on just this particular poster but find it to be a useful example. Many of the posts before this deserve equal attention. This will be labelled as a mean spirited post but it is certainly not the first one on this thread or others. Our viewpoints are just different and if its ok for others, it must be ok for me, or so the prevailing logic goes.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

You refuse to take responsibility for the ( insert: roosters and other animals here) YOU CHOOSE TO HATCH AND RAISE and know you cannot keep. You do not deprive yourself of your selfish pleasures to avoid the inevitable unhappy ending. You do not take them to a processor, nor do the necessary deed yourself (that would be murder or something equally bad) and then pat yourself on the back because you turned them loose in a ( insert tree farm or dumped on side of road ect...) to fend for themselves. Some of you did however, (general assumption) campaign against slaughter houses ect.. because, some how, dumping animals and letting them starve or forcing someone else to shoulder your problem is much more honourable and humane.

You make yourself feel better by saying a homeless person had dinner (you could have processed and donated that chicken up front) and all because your ad got flagged on craigs list. Everyone out there busy hatching out cute little chicks for fun, has a duty to see it through to the end, in a proper way and stop accusing others of poor uncaring behaviour when yours is no better. There are other avenues of advertising but god forbid, you might have to pay for it and put some effort into it. If you truly find it too difficult to take care of what you bring into the world, stop doing it. You are part of the problem; not the solution.

The ad with the dead dog was someone trying to counteract the do gooders who have no clue as to what constitutes animal cruelty and their sanctimonious clap trap, anonymous ways of doing nothing more then power tripping because they can. Not one animal has been spared by any of the bs on this thread OR a craigs list flagger; their plight has only been made worse. Those guilty of this type of behaviour should continue to keep their collective heads in the sand if it suits. Just stay off the moral high horse and quit pointing fingers.

My apologies for my own lack of tact. I shall now bow out. Its been a rough day.


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[arabianequine]

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It is a free site though....it won't be if that was the case. Then it would all be a mute point.

As far as a bullet verses an injection. I think the injection is more peaceful and less traumatic for the animal.


JMO

 

[NYboy]

How are cows and horses put down?

 

[Hollywood Chickens]

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Thank you I realize that I did not put in all of the facts. I do not hatch because I know that I cannot have roosters, so I get from hatcheries but sometimes (even though I ask them not to and I always get more than 12 pullets at a time) they put in roosters for warmth and I can't find homes for them before they start crowing, because of the flagging.

I only had to let a few roosters loose and they had been free ranging for several weeks by then so they knew how to forage, I also let them out where they wouldn't bother people and by a small river so that they could drink, I saw one of them several months later, he had joined someone's flock and looked very happy and healthy, the other as you know became dinner.

Thanks for caring!

 

[AussieAcres]

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Are you talking commercially?

Commercially killed cows for example are loaded into a device to restrain them. Their heads are locked into position and a pneumatic piston punctures the skull and destroys the brain. Ideally, the exact same method as a firearm. Destroying all neural activity and killing them instantly without pain. The BIG difference is in this situation they are lined up in masses and can see/hear what is happening. Most animals are distressed and in tremendous amounts of fear (of note releasing testosterone and cortisol which alters the meats taste and toughness). The piston is not always as accurate as it should be. Not really equatable to a relaxed setting of taking fluffy out back of the barn.