what kind is this? and did she lay this egg?

[sallyjayd]

I bought 8 Cornish rock all eat the same way "free feed" and "free range" all but her died 8 weeks ago (all about the same time).


They all had excess to the same exercise and the same food.

I'm convinced she is not a true Cornish rock and is mixed with something else. She did lay 3 laid pretty nice eggs when they come with a hard shell..
Nice size (double yolker & 1 triple) and alot of them if only they were hard shelled

They were all out walking around but some were little lumps of clay.

She just acts way different. then the others did...

I can tell she does have some Cornish in her because she does like to eat...


2 years and still going

 

[Olive Hill]

This may not be a popular opinion, but...

...serious question for you, why would you buy a meat breed to keep as a pet? And NOT raise it properly to be kept as one?

As much as I'm not a fan of meat breeds IMO, it is CRUEL to do that to those birds. If you wanted to keep it for a pet you should have restricted feed accordingly. Letting them eat and eat and eat and then just die is cruel. They're genetically programmed to eat themselves until they cannot even move if allowed to. Even when growing them for meat their feed has to be limited to an extent to ward off leg problems. And to free feed them and then expect them to lay? Their oviduct is incredibly prone to collapse if they're not raised properly to lay.

 

[Dustin Biery]

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When raised for slaughter, I have always kept them on free choice feed. I do not know the OP plans, but there are some who buy meat birds but are not able to carry through with it. Meat birds that you get from hatcheries are not supposed to lay period. They are short term birds. And just because they weren't feed restricted, doesn't mean they ate themselves to death. More often than not, they die of organ failure (mostly heart) due to the fact that their organs cannot grow at the rate needed to keep up with everything else. There are other reasons that they die, but I do not have the energy to explain.

 

[Olive Hill]

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Any good breeder and/or hatchery will tell you this is not a good idea.

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So it's okay to let the birds suffer because you "can't carry through with it"? I disagree whole heartedly.

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Which is what I just said.

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What part of this is not related to feed exactly? Done properly very restricted feeding slows their growth rate giving their organs time to keep up. Without free access to food this is less likely to happen.

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I've raised meat birds for years, if there's something you think you should "educate" me on, please explain away.

 

[DTchickens]

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Any good breeder and/or hatchery will tell you this is not a good idea.

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So it's okay to let the birds suffer because you "can't carry through with it"? I disagree whole heartedly.

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Which is what I just said.

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What part of this is not related to feed exactly? Done properly very restricted feeding slows their growth rate giving their organs time to keep up. Without free access to food this is less likely to happen.

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I've raised meat birds for years, if there's something you think you should "educate" me on, please explain away.

You may could take into consideration that the OP may not have known what the bird was, they said "Cornish rock" given. However many people believe cornish are the meat birds because the grocery sells "Cornish game hens" KFC/popeyes sells Broilers.. Cornish X is another one people know them by most of the time but when they typically think of eating chickens without knowing chicken breeds they think Broilers/Cornish are the same exact birds.

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

When raised for slaughter, I have always kept them on free choice feed.

Any good breeder and/or hatchery will tell you this is not a good idea.

I'm confused by what you meant...do you mean that it is not a good idea to feed 24/7 or that you must measure out the feed specifically at intervals in the day, or that you must feed them as you would a normal bird?

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So it's okay to let the birds suffer because you "can't carry through with it"? I disagree whole heartedly.

It's not our decision how everyone's birds are raised.

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Which is what I just said.

Um OK?

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What part of this is not related to feed exactly? Done properly very restricted feeding slows their growth rate giving their organs time to keep up. Without free access to food this is less likely to happen.

Since they are raised for meat and designed to be processed at approximately 8 weeks, what's the issue? I "believe" that Dustin is saying that due to genetics as well as nutrition and feed:weight ratio, the likelihood of these birds making it to sexual maturity is not common.


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I've raised meat birds for years, if there's something you think you should "educate" me on, please explain away.

Congrats, but why go on a rampage?​

 

[the4heathernsmom]

wow

 

[Dustin Biery]

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Any good breeder and/or hatchery will tell you this is not a good idea.

Actually, that was how we were directed by the hatchery to raise our birds for the Oklahoma State Broiler Show, so just because that is your opinion, does not make it everyones.

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So it's okay to let the birds suffer because you "can't carry through with it"? I disagree whole heartedly.

They are not your birds, it is not your decision. I said that I didnt know if this was what happened with the OP, but I do know that it does happen. And who is to say they suffer? If they die of a heart attack or failure, Im sure there isn't much suffereing involved.

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Which is what I just said.

No, you said "Their oviduct is incredibly prone to collapse if they're not raised properly to lay." But I revert back to my previous statement, they are not supposed to ever reach that point.

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What part of this is not related to feed exactly? Done properly very restricted feeding slows their growth rate giving their organs time to keep up. Without free access to food this is less likely to happen.

You cannot, cannot expect broilers to grow at a rate that their vitals can keep up with. Yes you can slow their growth down, but it is still not to a point where their bodies can keep up.

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I've raised meat birds for years, if there's something you think you should "educate" me on, please explain away.

No, at this point, trying to explain doesn't work, I will not continue. I have done many research projects on feeding hours and amounts being fed. Believe me, I also have experience with broilers.

 

[sallyjayd]

Sorry, Didn't mean to start a fight

NO YELLING PLEASE!!!!

Please forgive me.

I DID know that I was buying "meat" chickens,

I did know I was to butch at age 9- 12 weeks.

I did NOT know how old they were and always kept saying I would give them one more week they never seem to be that big. since I guess I saw them grown a little at a time.

I couldn't bring myself to killing them if they were looking health and happy.

I am VERY new to the chickens (1st time every owning!) and I will now be getting only egg layers...

I did butcher some who look to be going to the side of "they were not health or happy" I did not Include in the total 8 number... I had (27)
They hearts looked to be cover with lots of fat when butchering occurred.

when I chose the time when I butcher they looked as to be getting the first sights of heart failed. My mind a mercy kill...

Last 8 ... they all looked happy the night before I saw them dead lost 4 one night 3 the next... all but "Cornall Sanders".. and she has been going strong. like I said I thinks shes mix with something and I hoping it does something to the jeans and gives her a happy life I feel it has already been longer...

Sorry again to start arguments. I know I have to live with the chooses I make...

I never expect her to give good eggs and was a little shock to see her laying anything I COULD EAT. I stood there as she laid it and was a little shocked.. that's why I asked...

are all chickens with cornish mix in breed for meat????

 

[Dustin Biery]

No not all "cornish" crosses. But all cornish cross from the hatcheries are. If you were losing multiple in a single night, they were probably startled which could have cause them to stroke out/heart attack. I have found that playing a raido in their near proximity will keep them from being startled as easy.