What kind of silkie (color etc?)

[Matilda Belle]

The strippers dont have the bow tie correct? Hence the name strippers?

correct

 

[Mmanist]

correct

I like the showgirls, over the actual NN. I dont care for the red NN skin lol I also don't care for the strippers, but do love the showgirls. One day I'll have a showgirl hen for my silkie rooster.

 

[Matilda Belle]

Don't get me started on fashion dogs names!!

We all know what is crossed to get a puggle or a schnoodle, but they are crosses nonetheless until and unless they become recognised stable breeds in their own right and breed true. This is the crux of the issue to me, because breeders charge a fortune for them and people think they are buying a breed because it has a name.

Showgirl is just the nickname for a silkie feathered Turken, right? Or are they crosses between silkies and Turkens? Do they breed true every time? I am aware the naked neck is a dominant gene. I thought the name showgirl (like satin) was vernacular and merely describes what it looks like, but it isn't a recognised breed. Do correct me if I'm wrong.

A showgirl is a naked neck Silkie/satin. When I breed my strippers to my satin rooster, I get a lot of showgirls so I’m almost certain the naked neck is more dominant at least in my strippers.

Satins aren’t a recognized breed but they are a breed. Like I said, they’ve been worked on for over 25 years. I think perhaps because they aren’t a recognized breed there is a lot of misinformation about them. I have bred them for almost three years and they are a beautiful breed.

EDIT: corrected to say strippers and not showgirls

 

[lilmillefleur]

I thought naked necks was incompletely dominant.
bow tie x bow tie = 50% bow tie, 25% normal, 25% 'stripper'

 

[Matilda Belle]

I thought naked necks was incompletely dominant.
bow tie x bow tie = 50% bow tie, 25% normal, 25% 'stripper'

correct

 

[lilmillefleur]

correct

okay, I was right. Thanks!

 

[Matilda Belle]

okay, I was right. Thanks!

thanks for making me recheck that chart. I have strippers so it’s no wonder I’m getting so many showgirls. Lol

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Don't get me started on fashion dogs names!!

We all know what is crossed to get a puggle or a schnoodle, but they are crosses nonetheless until and unless they become recognised stable breeds in their own right and breed true. This is the crux of the issue to me, because breeders charge a fortune for them and people think they are buying a breed because it has a name.

Showgirl is just the nickname for a silkie feathered Turken, right? Or are they crosses between silkies and Turkens? Do they breed true every time? I am aware the naked neck is a dominant gene. I thought the name showgirl (like satin) was vernacular and merely describes what it looks like, but it isn't a recognised breed. Do correct me if I'm wrong.

No, show girls and silkied naked necks are different. Show girls are silkies with a naked neck and bowtie. They have blue skin, a crest, that extra toe, all silkie but the neck.

Silkied naked necks are naked necks with the silkied feather mutation. Sure, some early generations will have an extra toe since I think that's dominant, but they usually only have silkied feathering

 

[Chicalina]

Thank you all for the neck tutorial. I can't figure out if I understand it or am more confused! . It is hugely interesting all the same

I'm not sure we are on the same page about satins, so help me out here too please. I have chickens which are satin feathered, i.e. half Silkie but they are not a breed they are crosses. What do you consider a satin to be and to come from?

 

[Matilda Belle]

Thank you all for the neck tutorial. I can't figure out if I understand it or am more confused! . It is hugely interesting all the same

I'm not sure we are on the same page about satins, so help me out here too please. I have chickens which are satin feathered, i.e. half Silkie but they are not a breed they are crosses. What do you consider a satin to be and to come from?

I’m definitely no expert but I do know that to start a satin breed you need a Cochin and a Silkie and then you breed it back for several generations to get a satin. I’m not sure exactly how many times. I want to say 8-10 generations but don’t quote me.

In short, a Cochin x Silkie is a cross not a satin.