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I know I am not ready for them, I am just saying I want them.
I will stick with goldens for 2 years.
I will stick with goldens for 2 years.
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What should I buy?
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I have been raising Goldens all last year tho....... so NEXT year I will start with something different.
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There's a difference in raising and buying, have you produced any at all? From what I have seen, you have just been buying yearling birds for the past year, that's NOT the same thing as raising them.
When you start hatching birds and keeping them alive, then you are raising pheasants. When that time comes, you'll see what we all have been trying to tell you, they are hard to keep a live, even ruffed species can be when chicks.
As for impeyans, that needs to be a 5-10 year goal for you, not next spring.
Do just like I said, and work your way up the list, you'll hit a level eventually where you just cant keep much alive, STOP there til you figure it out.
Once you get them going good, you can move on to the next level.
I know your excited about these birds, and that's great! BUT YOU MUST UNDERSTAND, these aint chickens, quail, ringnecks, peafowl, etc.
They are some of the hardest birds in the hobby to raise and keep healthy. They require specialised diets supplemented with greens and vegetables, EXCELLENT pens, just a small bare dirt tiny hut pen aint gone cut it with them, they either passe them selves to death, beat them selves to death, get sick, or just drop dead on you .
You pens need to be large and immaculate for them, especially the upper end birds.
As for the skipping the longtails, that will be a mistake on your part you'll live to regret. Those levels of husbandry are there for a reason, not to take or skip as you please.
And dont get reeves and consider that longtails and move on. They are the chicken of the longtail groups, you need to work with elliots, mikados, humes, edwards,etc before jumping up to the next level as all are different in husbandry and individual behavior.
Again, we arent trying to be a party pooper, just to talk so reality into you.
There is a reason why very few people have these birds, why the cost a fortune, and why most are on the endangered or threatened species list.... they die very easily and produce very slowly.
There's a difference in raising and buying, have you produced any at all? From what I have seen, you have just been buying yearling birds for the past year, that's NOT the same thing as raising them.
When you start hatching birds and keeping them alive, then you are raising pheasants. When that time comes, you'll see what we all have been trying to tell you, they are hard to keep a live, even ruffed species can be when chicks.
As for impeyans, that needs to be a 5-10 year goal for you, not next spring.
Do just like I said, and work your way up the list, you'll hit a level eventually where you just cant keep much alive, STOP there til you figure it out.
Once you get them going good, you can move on to the next level.
I know your excited about these birds, and that's great! BUT YOU MUST UNDERSTAND, these aint chickens, quail, ringnecks, peafowl, etc.
They are some of the hardest birds in the hobby to raise and keep healthy. They require specialised diets supplemented with greens and vegetables, EXCELLENT pens, just a small bare dirt tiny hut pen aint gone cut it with them, they either passe them selves to death, beat them selves to death, get sick, or just drop dead on you .
You pens need to be large and immaculate for them, especially the upper end birds.
As for the skipping the longtails, that will be a mistake on your part you'll live to regret. Those levels of husbandry are there for a reason, not to take or skip as you please.
And dont get reeves and consider that longtails and move on. They are the chicken of the longtail groups, you need to work with elliots, mikados, humes, edwards,etc before jumping up to the next level as all are different in husbandry and individual behavior.
Again, we arent trying to be a party pooper, just to talk so reality into you.
There is a reason why very few people have these birds, why the cost a fortune, and why most are on the endangered or threatened species list.... they die very easily and produce very slowly.
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Agree!
I raised what is known as common pheasants for 18 years until I moved up to the swinhoes,mikado,impeyans,coppers kalij and the others.Not only because I couldn't afford them,I needed to make sure of what I was doing with them.You need to think of the birds welfare not your dream.If everyone started with impeyansI gaurantee they would be near extinction.And 2 years is hardly enough time think you are experienced.Please listen to what you are told,you and the birds will benefit in the long run.
Your only 13?You have plenty of time to enjoy pheasants.But think of the birds also.
In N.H.,Tony.
Your only 13?You have plenty of time to enjoy pheasants.But think of the birds also.
In N.H.,Tony.
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Thanks Tony!
Lady Amherst pheasant because they are one of the best you can own but one of teh most expensive i believe a trio cost around $110 but worth it
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YOU NEED TO CHECK YOUR SOURCES KID... WHILE LADY AMS ARE NICE BIRDS THEY'RE ON THE CHEAP END OF THE SPECTRUM IN THE PHEASANT WORLD
YOU NEED TO CHECK YOUR SOURCES KID... WHILE LADY AMS ARE NICE BIRDS THEY'RE ON THE CHEAP END OF THE SPECTRUM IN THE PHEASANT WORLD
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