I contacted a rescue in (I think) Illinois about some ringneck doves they listed on Hooblie (sp?). I asked them if they were able to ship the doves, and they said they never have, but if I could tell them how to ship them they would send them to me for cost of shipping only! So I need to know what size box I'd need for 6 doves? I assume it would be the square box? How much 'food' would they need? Apples, oranges, and millet I assume? Thanks! ETA: This is the one I'm referring to when I say the 'square' box--> http://www.hm-e.net/p2economy.htm It says it is 4-bird, but that's for pigeons. If this is the right box, would it need the dividers? They say there are 3 pairs, well, 3 males and 3 females anyway, don't know if they are 'pairs' by choice ETA again: Here is another I found, called the Mini N.E.S.T. This one is equipped with perches and the same price as the one above (economy N.E.S.T.) http://www.hm-e.net/p3newmini.htm Which would be better? ETA again: Well, it looks like the mini nest is not available, they have it on their site (if you look for it) but no way to order it that I can find.