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Luvmykiddos said:
I learned the hard way that nutrition does make a life or death difference in chicks, so as long as it is not showing signs of physically harming them, I don't see the problem of adding a fermented probiotic to their drink (ACV) that only adds friendly bacteria to their gut flora, which would reduce the incidence of pasty butt.

Personally, I add Grapefruit Seed Extract or ACV in our chickens water, because we use a 10 gallon water cooler to store the water our chickens drink from and I want to make sure the water stays in an environment that is hostile to growing bacteria/viruses, but adds to the health of our chickens.

I also keep Vi-Tal and Nutri-Drench on hand for any possible emergencies in the future or to give them a boost of electrolytes during the summer heat.

Hope that helps!
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X2 Same here. I've used electrolytes to boost sick and weak chicks and it really helped. I once kept a sick chick alive for a week on a vitamin+mineral supplement when she was off her food.
 
I do not see evidence for research. Threads discussing vinegar are simply discussions. Research involves more, such as looking into relavent scientific publications and if detailed enough answer not found, then further experimentation. Without such to back up assertions about safety and effectiveness, you could be recommending voodoo or snake oil.
 

Apple Cider Vinegar for Chickens



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Stockhealth Double Strength Apple Cider Vinegar

While the efficacy of Apple Cider Vinegar in ruminants as a tonic has not been extensively studied, research into its use with poultry has revealed definitive health benefits. The apple cider causes an alkaline effect in the animal which reduces the likelihood of illness and helps fight existing maladies by helping to support the immune system.
Apple Cider Vinegar is full of vitamins, minerals and trace elements. It helps to lower the pH level in the stomach, helping digestion and making it a less friendly for harmful pathogens.
Specialist poultry researchers at the University of Arkansas have run trials on the use of products like ACV in the water of broiler (chickens raised for meat) production systems, to reduce pH levels.
Previous research has shown that if the pH of the crop (basically the first part of the chicken's stomach) was lowered close to a pH of 4 (acid), it creates an environment that was inhospitable to undesirable microbes, particularly nasty bacterias.
Results from a number of trials found no significant differences in the level of water consumption, weight gain, feed conversion or livability between chickens tested on water varying from pH3 to pH5. The birds who consumed water with a lower ph did however record a similarly low pH in their crops, but not in the gizzard - as was expected due to the natural secretions of hydrochloric acid in the gizzard evening out the pH to normal.
Scientists involved reached the conclusion that chickens are very tolerant of a wide range of pH levels in their water, and that by lowering the pH of the water using sodium bisulfate, they could lower the pH of the bird's crop.
The use of Apple Cider Vinegar in the water supply of your chickens once a month should help to prevent bacteria building up in the crop of your birds.
Stockhealth provides 2 variants of their apple cider vinegar product suitable for your farm animals - Traditional Apple Cider Vinegar and Apple Cider Vinegar with Garlic. Research shows that garlic essential oil can help to ensure the health of your stock by working as an effective preventative and possible a curative for the treatment of external parasites. There are also results from research at Clemson University which demonstrate that the addition of garlic into the birds' feed can reduce the odour of the chicken's manure without affecting the taste of the eggs produced.

Benefits
  • A specially formulated DOUBLE STRENGTH (8%) unpasteurised natural supplement for all livestock.
  • It is unpasteurised, therefore retaining the ‘mother of vinegar’ which is vital in preserving all vitamins and minerals.
  • It is high in acetic and malic NATURAL acids.
  • It is a rich source of potassium and is quickly assimilated. Potassium is necessary to build strength and fight bacteria by flushing out toxins.
  • It has powerful healing, cleansing, natural antibiotic & antiseptic qualities.
  • It has both internal and external benefits for Itch, Bot Flies, Fleas, Ticks, Skin Conditions, Arthritis, Mastitis, Cystitis and endless ailments. It is an excellent cleaning product.

Suggested Dosage Rates
  • POULTRY 80ml of ACV in a bucket of water daily for 100 - 150 chickens. Apple Cider Vinegar creates quicker feathering and quicker growth. Meat from any bird or animal fed with Apple Cider Vinegar is more tender. 20ml of Apple Cider Vinegar can also be put into an icecream container.

Please note – the above rates are only guides – please contact us if you need more detail​
 
That is an advertisement, not research. Scientist referred to are very likely in the pocket of the manufacturer / distributer. The publications supporting the above statements need to be available for scrutiny.
 
These people and everyone here on BYC that has been using ACV and seen the benefits can't all be wrong surely? I have seen the benefits when I used it with my own flock and I am convinced. If you want more proof give it a trial run with your flock. See it for yourself. It won't harm them, I promise you
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http://www2.ca.uky.edu/afspoultry-files/pubs/Natural_remedies.pdf

Apple cider vinegar is rich in the vitamins, min- erals and trace elements found in apples, es- pecially potassium. In chickens it has been shown to lower the pH in the digestive tract which will make an environment less welcom- ing to pathogens reducing common infections and increasing resistance to disease. Typical inclusion levels are 1/8 – 1/4 of a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar to every 110 ml of water (or 4.5 - 8.5 teaspoons per gallon). This level of inclusion will also discourage algae growth. It should be given for 2-3 days at a time.
 
We give our chickens ACV almost everyday. We mix in a tablespoon into the gallon sized waterer. It is suppose to have several health benefits and according to some people keeps parasites away. It also seems that our chickens drink more of the water when it is mixed with ACV. Some of the people we sell eggs to also say that we have the best farm fresh eggs they have ever had. So we are under the impression that the ACV affects the taste of the eggs in a positive manner.
 
Brandi Leigh said:
We give our chickens ACV almost everyday. We mix in a tablespoon into the gallon sized waterer. It is suppose to have several health benefits and according to some people keeps parasites away. It also seems that our chickens drink more of the water when it is mixed with ACV. Some of the people we sell eggs to also say that we have the best farm fresh eggs they have ever had. So we are under the impression that the ACV affects the taste of the eggs in a positive manner.
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Do some research. Split flock into two. Water one with ACV, other with just water. Provide eggs with marks according to water supplied to consumers but do tell them which marks mean which type of water. After the eat eggs, ask first do the eggs taste diiferently as a function mark. Then ask if they like one over the other. This should done with multiple consumers.
 
sumi said:
These people and everyone here on BYC that has been using ACV and seen the benefits can't all be wrong surely? I have seen the benefits when I used it with my own flock and I am convinced. If you want more proof give it a trial run with your flock. See it for yourself. It won't harm them, I promise you :)

http://www2.ca.uky.edu/afspoultry-files/pubs/Natural_remedies.pdf

[SIZE=12pt]Apple cider vinegar is rich in the vitamins, min- erals and trace elements found in apples, es- pecially potassium. In chickens it has been shown to lower the pH in the digestive tract which will make an environment less welcom- ing to pathogens reducing common infections and increasing resistance to disease. Typical inclusion levels are 1/8 – 1/4 of a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar to every 110 ml of water (or 4.5 - 8.5 teaspoons per gallon). This level of inclusion will also discourage algae growth. It should be given for 2-3 days at a time. [/SIZE]
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