After trying ducks, turkeys, guineas, etc, we finally discovered geese. Geese seem even more tame than chickens! (more like a pet dog that follows us around - even as babies!) So if you want something hardy that you won't lose to a predator within a year, and don't want to keep in a small pen, then I highly recommend geese! Our 2 geese are very loud (not even sure if they're Chinese or something else) but they lay lots of HUGE eggs, and they seem to keep the hawks away. At one point we had bobcats and foxes coming mid-day, taking sometimes 5 birds a day, but they never got the geese either. We had to put up an electric fence along the creek-edge to keep out the bobcat, but now all seems to be well....cross fingers.