what vey best full size broody hens & make great mothers

Mine look like pictures 4 , 5 , & . 6.
Your bird is a Faverolles then! I have 2, they go broody at LEAST twice a year but I have no rooster and break them. I also have a BIG Black Australorp (Zorra) that goes broody.

My 2012 chicks were my first and raised themselves. I ordered the 2015 girls when Zorra was broody in May. I stuffed them under her the second night after they arrived, she had been broody for about 2.5 weeks, normal incubation is 21 days. She did a GREAT job of raising them. One of the Faverolles was broody at the same time. I broke her when Zorra took the chicks but the Faverolles turned into a "mother's helper" and the 2 of them were with the chicks for 2 months. Zorra kicked them to the curb then but Anais stayed with them for another few weeks.

One of the Faverolles was broody last year in April, I had already ordered chicks for that timeframe based on the historic broody times of the three 2012 girls. But she insisted on returning to, and hogging, one of the nest boxes. She would NOT stay in the brooder area where I had made her a nest with 4 plastic eggs to sit. I didn't want her to try to raise chicks 2' off the ground. How would I feed and water them?? I broke her and raised the 7 chicks with a Mama Heating Pad
(https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...d-in-the-brooder-picture-heavy-update.956958/) cave. Zorra went broody about the time they arrived but she wasn't interested in dealing with chicks. I guess they need that period of being broody for incubation first. I broke her as well but when the chicks were 3 weeks old she decided she wanted to raise them. Again she spent 2 months with the chicks showing them the best daytime hangouts and all sorts of things chickens consider food.
 
I literally just got done ordering new heating lamps and infrared bulbs, moments ago... as my daughter and I both agree that MHP is not for us. :D

And I don't mean with no experience and just hear say... I've raised lot's and tried both ways. And know there are still hundreds in the future :oops: I NEED to see what's going on!

I have adopted to hen that were only broody a week successfully. And feed store chicks up to 6 days old. My broody's will NEVER stay in a "set up" nest on eggs, they always go back to their chosen nest. If I put them in a set up nest with chicks under them during the night, they will stay with the chicks until they can follow them back to their chosen place. We have run many a successful adoption through here. :lol: Feed store chicks make for less dealing with cockerel antics. And I don't like my broody's to sit that long if I can help it. I personally won't let ANY broody under 1 year old sit. Their bodies and minds are still growing and maturing and there is a HUGE difference between a mature hen and a pullet. Since I'm in it for the long haul, the pullets will go broody again... for now they break. ;) And I only use a wire bottom kennel for night time purposes, otherwise an open bottom grass pen is just as effective at breaking a determined broody and the only thing that matters is they don't gain access to a comfy nest.

Faverolle are pretty birds. :love

So basically the very best broody is any that will cooperate... and kinda depends on what your version of best is. Some people will be happy with a small hen raising chicks back to back all year long while laying about 10 eggs MAX in between those batches... Not me. Though it IS nice to have that reliability, it's also HUGELY frustrating... I get no eggs for eating or hatching, my rooster has one less available gal for mating, my other gals gotta walk on egg shells, and so on. Not to mention it seems to spread like wild fire! :barnie

But having a hen that will raise one or two broods per year is great! :thumbsup Maybe not convenient.. But fantastic, happy medium... for some people. :D

So it seems as though it kinda depends on your goals... and is multi faceted like so many other things in life. :pop
 
I literally just got done ordering new heating lamps and infrared bulbs, moments ago... as my daughter and I both agree that MHP is not for us. :D

And I don't mean with no experience and just hear say... I've raised lot's and tried both ways. And know there are still hundreds in the future :oops: I NEED to see what's going on!

I have adopted to hen that were only broody a week successfully. And feed store chicks up to 6 days old. My broody's will NEVER stay in a "set up" nest on eggs, they always go back to their chosen nest. If I put them in a set up nest with chicks under them during the night, they will stay with the chicks until they can follow them back to their chosen place. We have run many a successful adoption through here. :lol: Feed store chicks make for less dealing with cockerel antics. And I don't like my broody's to sit that long if I can help it. I personally won't let ANY broody under 1 year old sit. Their bodies and minds are still growing and maturing and there is a HUGE difference between a mature hen and a pullet. Since I'm in it for the long haul, the pullets will go broody again... for now they break. ;) And I only use a wire bottom kennel for night time purposes, otherwise an open bottom grass pen is just as effective at breaking a determined broody and the only thing that matters is they don't gain access to a comfy nest.

Faverolle are pretty birds. :love

So basically the very best broody is any that will cooperate... and kinda depends on what your version of best is. Some people will be happy with a small hen raising chicks back to back all year long while laying about 10 eggs MAX in between those batches... Not me. Though it IS nice to have that reliability, it's also HUGELY frustrating... I get no eggs for eating or hatching, my rooster has one less available gal for mating, my other gals gotta walk on egg shells, and so on. Not to mention it seems to spread like wild fire! :barnie

But having a hen that will raise one or two broods per year is great! :thumbsup Maybe not convenient.. But fantastic, happy medium... for some people. :D

So it seems as though it kinda depends on your goals... and is multi faceted like so many other things in life. :pop
Thanks for the input!

Love it!
 
And I don't mean with no experience and just hear say... I've raised lot's and tried both ways. And know there are still hundreds in the future :oops: I NEED to see what's going on!
Are there aspects of the MHP you find undesirable for you other than not being able to see the "kids" when they are asleep? Other than the first day or two, mine are out in the barn, I can't see them most of the time no matter what or who is brooding them ;)

Given a choice, I much prefer to have a hen do the job. The job of heat lamps and MHP caves stops at providing heat. The hen does so much more :D
 
Are there aspects of the MHP you find undesirable for you
Let's just say it is not without user error! :oops:

I have improvised and instead of using press and seal just wrapped the cling wrap around the pad and frame. Well I end up with chicks everywhere except where I want them. On top of the frame, pushed out the back side underneath. But the worst was the plastic wrap bubble with the chicks all stuck inside, swollen like it get's in the microwave. :eek: And then getting it to grow with them is just too much for my over thinking mind... you have no idea how many frames and different brooder type/sizes I have experimented with. So in the end, keeping it simple where I can simply wipe off the dirt that settles and raise or lower. Oh and then there's the whole how many heating pad changes to accommodate the never ending barrage of new hatchlings weekly, the lamp SEEMS like it supports a wider range of needs and I can see nobody is being trampled and whether they are sprawled nicely or standing chilly and how much poo is accumulating or how dry the shaving are.. I like to see the interactions. So it's mostly a control thing. ;) And when raising them inside... seems like they are friendlier and not hiding as much as they do in MHP, where they are more shielded from (or less exposed to) my actions.. Of course every single time (chick) even with the same broody can be a new experience. I always see something new that I'd never have suspected. And each year things change for me... this year chicks seem to be heading outdoors to intermediate tractors around 2 weeks old. Who knows what that will be by the end of this season?! Well... in reality, the season is already getting a little heavy with chicks. :pop

Definitely, broody's excel at raising chicks! Some need more help but are just as dedicated and wonderful. I used to think it would be rare or impossible to get a broody.. now I know it's totally possible! :thumbsup
 
Let's just say it is not without user error! :oops:

I have improvised and instead of using press and seal just wrapped the cling wrap around the pad and frame. Well I end up with chicks everywhere except where I want them. On top of the frame, pushed out the back side underneath. But the worst was the plastic wrap bubble with the chicks all stuck inside, swollen like it get's in the microwave. :eek: And then getting it to grow with them is just too much for my over thinking mind... you have no idea how many frames and different brooder type/sizes I have experimented with. So in the end, keeping it simple where I can simply wipe off the dirt that settles and raise or lower. Oh and then there's the whole how many heating pad changes to accommodate the never ending barrage of new hatchlings weekly, the lamp SEEMS like it supports a wider range of needs and I can see nobody is being trampled and whether they are sprawled nicely or standing chilly and how much poo is accumulating or how dry the shaving are.. I like to see the interactions. So it's mostly a control thing. ;) And when raising them inside... seems like they are friendlier and not hiding as much as they do in MHP, where they are more shielded from (or less exposed to) my actions.. Of course every single time (chick) even with the same broody can be a new experience. I always see something new that I'd never have suspected. And each year things change for me... this year chicks seem to be heading outdoors to intermediate tractors around 2 weeks old. Who knows what that will be by the end of this season?! Well... in reality, the season is already getting a little heavy with chicks. :pop

Definitely, broody's excel at raising chicks! Some need more help but are just as dedicated and wonderful. I used to think it would be rare or impossible to get a broody.. now I know it's totally possible! :thumbsup
One reason Why I would not recommend this to novice chicken raisers.
 
I can see where a single MHP cave could be a problem if you are hatching chicks weekly. And people have found that having multiple caves in a single brooder doesn't work, all the chicks want to cram into one.

It does seem you think about the cave a lot more than I do. I never bothered with the press'n' seal. Just wrapped the frame and pad in an old flannel pillowcase. The pillowcase can be washed when the chicks are done with the cave or tossed. And I didn't obsess over the height of the cave. Started about 2" in back, 4" in front, adjusted it a couple of times as they grew. It's like I tell my daughter about cooking: It doesn't have to be EXACT. After all, a hen isn't doing any serious calculations about what the chicks need, why should I ;) Just need to make sure there aren't any openings where a chick can get trapped (which should be done in all parts of the brooder regardless of the warming method) and that they are shown where the warm "hen" is.

And Ron, I respectfully disagree. I would suggest the MHP to a newbie. It is quite simple, if you don't overthink it. Having read every page of Blooie's thread since its inception, unfortunately a lot of people DO overthink it. Less is more. Adjustable frame of some sort, heating pad attached underneath, whole thing covered so the chicks can't get stuck between the pad and the frame.
 
. I never bothered with the press'n' seal. Just wrapped the frame and pad in an old flannel pillowcase. The pillowcase can be washed when the chicks are done with the cave or tossed.
Yes, but chick poo has liquid that seeps through to the heating pad if it isn't covered by something water resistant... was my thought. :confused:

Ah yes... I can just see all the chicks having multiple caves (cuz you know we do our BEST for all our species, with all KINDS if elaborate provisions and they like to stick their tongues out at us) and cramming into one. :p But I bet they'd be warm! :love

Alas... after my broody lost ANOTHER chicks to aerial predators while I went to the feed store this afternoon. :barnie I'm saddest that I decided to play the bad guy and stole her last 2 babes after dark to be raised with my others under better cover. I am against taking babies from their moms, but I guess if it's to save their live, did I really have another choice? :hitI can't afford to sustain continued heavy loss. That's the 3 rd one on under 2 weeks. :mad: The (identity with held for legal reasons) has been brazen within 15 feet of my kitchen window. I'm now the proud owner of a pellet rifle that will be contained within my property when fired and effective against said sized target! :smack On the other hand... my last broody that lost her only baby (one of these recent 3) was back to laying within 1 or 2 days... and of course will be broody again like clockwork. :oops: I will be breaking them until I can resolve my issue or provide better cover.

Also note things are never a problem until they are... I have free ranged my birds for more than 8 years now and never sustained predator loss before... :old (oh ya, had my first disease too, Marek's). Have to edit last year I did see one loss also, still 7 years!

Sorry, just needed to share as I wind down the day.
 

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