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Really?! Why derogatory? I would think that additional spending by the snowbirds would be welcome.

It does help the economy but most people think the tradeoff isn't worth it. Some of it is because snowbirds (there's a more vulgar term people use but I won't repeat it here) tend to be older/retired folks.

A big problem is the increased traffic and more traffic accidents. They merge without looking, speed up to prevent someone from merging, tailgate on freeways, drive slow in the left lane, and slam on the brakes at yellow lights.

Snowbirds tend to stand and chat in groups blocking store aisles, hiking trails, and parking lot aisles. They try to use rideshares for the parks and hiking trails. They don't tip much if at all. They fill parking lots at recreation spots popular with locals. They crowd coffee shops and other places that WFH locals use. They use city and gym pools and fill the lanes and refuse to share.

There are long waits at restaurants and it becomes impossible to get appointments at doctor's offices (for some reason many wait to get medical care until they're down here, maybe it's cheaper?) or tee times at the golf courses.

Housing is tight here and snowbird properties are typically empty for half the year. It's created a big problem with squatters.
 
It does help the economy but most people think the tradeoff isn't worth it. Some of it is because snowbirds (there's a more vulgar term people use but I won't repeat it here) tend to be older/retired folks.

A big problem is the increased traffic and more traffic accidents. They merge without looking, speed up to prevent someone from merging, tailgate on freeways, drive slow in the left lane, and slam on the brakes at yellow lights.

Snowbirds tend to stand and chat in groups blocking store aisles, hiking trails, and parking lot aisles. They try to use rideshares for the parks and hiking trails. They don't tip much if at all. They fill parking lots at recreation spots popular with locals. They crowd coffee shops and other places that WFH locals use. They use city and gym pools and fill the lanes and refuse to share.

There are long waits at restaurants and it becomes impossible to get appointments at doctor's offices (for some reason many wait to get medical care until they're down here, maybe it's cheaper?) or tee times at the golf courses.

Housing is tight here and snowbird properties are typically empty for half the year. It's created a big problem with squatters.
Hmmm I am only familiar with those who are in RV parks. They use the facilities in the parks rather than in town. Many have their own golf courses….

Haven’t had any issues in the outskirts of Yuma where my parents stayed, with busy stores etc. usually fairly tame whenever I grocery shopped.

The casino was the most busiest location on Sundays for brunch I found.

But I do commiserate with you on the terrible drivers etc, it’s tourist country up here and it year round, summer boating and camping, winter skidoo-ing and skiing.

It amazing how irritating it is to see Citiots ramming past farm vehicles or not slowing down when I am out riding the horses. Yup I can commiserate on that.

My only consolation is seeing them end up in the ditch when they try to follow me in Old Blue through snow drifts - hahahaha Citiots think their fancy Mercedes and BMWs can get through a 3’ snow drift.

How sweet it is to see that in the rear view mirror. 😉
 
Saturday 14th of December 12.03p.m. Mostly sunny, breezy and warm. 11.1 / 14.8kph ESE, Hg 50%, headed for 25C / 77F. Cloud clearing.

Moon is 97.6%


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This was yesterday afternoon. I stood in the backyard for the longest time debating whether or not to tarp the chickens before leaving to walk the dogs. In the end I left them with the shade cloth to take advantage of the cool gusting up the coastline.
When the cold Southerly buster blows through after a warm day everyone evacuates the lake.
 
Hmmm I am only familiar with those who are in RV parks. They use the facilities in the parks rather than in town. Many have their own golf courses….

Haven’t had any issues in the outskirts of Yuma where my parents stayed, with busy stores etc. usually fairly tame whenever I grocery shopped.

The casino was the most busiest location on Sundays for brunch I found.

But I do commiserate with you on the terrible drivers etc, it’s tourist country up here and it year round, summer boating and camping, winter skidoo-ing and skiing.

It amazing how irritating it is to see Citiots ramming past farm vehicles or not slowing down when I am out riding the horses. Yup I can commiserate on that.

My only consolation is seeing them end up in the ditch when they try to follow me in Old Blue through snow drifts - hahahaha Citiots think their fancy Mercedes and BMWs can get through a 3’ snow drift.

How sweet it is to see that in the rear view mirror. 😉
Those are general complaints but they aren't mine. I don't mind the snowbirds. I notice an increase in traffic and I've witnessed some conflicts between lap swimmers at the pools but it doesn't really affect me. As I said, if I could get out of here during the Hell Months I would, too!

I understand about cars and horses - now that I do have complaints about. One of the nice things about the desert is there are bridle trails everywhere. They wind through all the washes and throughout the neighborhoods, even in town. You can have a long ride and mostly avoid the roads except for some crossings, and yes, car drivers can be complete idiots.
 
It does help the economy but most people think the tradeoff isn't worth it. Some of it is because snowbirds (there's a more vulgar term people use but I won't repeat it here) tend to be older/retired folks.

A big problem is the increased traffic and more traffic accidents. They merge without looking, speed up to prevent someone from merging, tailgate on freeways, drive slow in the left lane, and slam on the brakes at yellow lights.

Snowbirds tend to stand and chat in groups blocking store aisles, hiking trails, and parking lot aisles. They try to use rideshares for the parks and hiking trails. They don't tip much if at all. They fill parking lots at recreation spots popular with locals. They crowd coffee shops and other places that WFH locals use. They use city and gym pools and fill the lanes and refuse to share.

There are long waits at restaurants and it becomes impossible to get appointments at doctor's offices (for some reason many wait to get medical care until they're down here, maybe it's cheaper?) or tee times at the golf courses.

Housing is tight here and snowbird properties are typically empty for half the year. It's created a big problem with squatters.
My folks starting going south in their early 60's, and landed in AZ for their first few years. They were with a religious organization called CAMPS (I think) that builds churches where needed so that would be their base, and then they were on the road most of the time. They then bought a place on a pond in a secure 55+ complex in Florida where Dad now 86 still goes to in the winter. I love that place and would love to move down there but they don't allow chickens. :gig
 
Those are general complaints but they aren't mine. I don't mind the snowbirds. I notice an increase in traffic and I've witnessed some conflicts between lap swimmers at the pools but it doesn't really affect me. As I said, if I could get out of here during the Hell Months I would, too!

I understand about cars and horses - now that I do have complaints about. One of the nice things about the desert is there are bridle trails everywhere. They wind through all the washes and throughout the neighborhoods, even in town. You can have a long ride and mostly avoid the roads except for some crossings, and yes, car drivers can be complete idiots.
I have ridden on the desert and it’s great! Love the cactus (don’t fall on one!) and you can have some good gallops in the desert 😊
 

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