What's Wrong With Our Birds? Can't Figure It Out!

Ruffled feathers, but still some preening. Seem to be eating well.

The flock is some that were hatched a week before the others. Hatch was April 18 and 24. They are about 2.5 weeks and 2 weeks.

The olders got their feathers ruffled before the youngers who are just now starting to get their feathers ruffled. They stand hunched. But they all also run around at times.

Poo is pretty normal usually. No blood. Loose 10% of the time, though I don't stand around for hours watching.

They are eating homemade feed.
They're eating a few tenebrio molitor larvae (mealworms) each day
and a homemade chick starter (18.7%) with these items in it:
Field Peas
Wheat
Corn
Alfalfa Pellets
Fish Meal
Millet
Sesame Seeds
Cultured Yeast
Diatomaceous Earth
Oyster Shell
Lentils
Kelp
Salt
Vitamins/Electrolytes

They are in a brooder house. Warm enough under one of the
1940s Plamondon hover with two lights. They moved here on Friday of last week. Temp is variable depending on how close they are to the lights. It's at least 90 by the lights. But in the 70s way out at the edges of the brooding area. Drafts few. The hover has a skirt on one side.

They have a feeder that doesn't get hardly any poo in it. None yet anyway. I ditched their other feeders that they kept flicking pine shavings in and pooping in.

I change their waterer 2 times a day.

I changed their pine shavings yesterday.

They are getting grit. Tiny stuff. Granite.

They were on Corid amprolium 9.6% at 2cc a gallon until last Saturday when their feathers started getting ruffled. The 2cc/gallon is supposed to be preventative. On Saturday, I switched to 4cc/gallon.

They are not getting better and it's been 5 days. More and more are getting ruffled feathers and hunched shoulders.

Why?

Please any ideas?

Let me know if you need more info.

Thanks so much!

SPARLEE SAID:
They were on Corid amprolium 9.6% at 2cc a gallon until last Saturday when their feathers started getting ruffled. The 2cc/gallon is supposed to be preventative. On Saturday, I switched to 4cc/gallon.

They are not getting better and it's been 5 days. More and more are getting ruffled feathers and hunched shoulders.

Why?

Please any ideas?

Let me know if you need more info.

if YOU DID NOT WANT ANY ADVISE OR SUGGESTIONS :
AS TO WHAT MAY BE WRONG WITH YOUR IDEAS.
WHY DID YOU ASK FOR ADVISE.?

I SAY THE THOUGHT OF SALT AND OYSTER SHELL IS WRONG.
BUT TO EACH HIS OWE.

THE FOLKS HAVE GIVEN GOOD SOLID ADVISE.
AND IF YOU DO NOT TAKE THE ADVISE IS FOR YOU TO ASK AND IGNORE.
 
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SPARKLEE
WELL HERE IS SOME THING I WOULD NOT DO.
QUOT
"They were on Corid amprolium 9.6% at 2cc a gallon until last Saturday when their feathers started getting ruffled. The 2cc/gallon is supposed to be preventative. On Saturday, I switched to 4cc/gallon

AS TOLD TO YOU THE AMPROLIUM IS ONLY NECSSARY WHEN THEY HAVE COCCIDIOSIS

YOU ARE POISONING YOUR OWN CHICKS WITH THIS AMPROLIUM

DISCONTINUE THE AMPOLIUM AN THEY SHOULD BE OKAY.
ALSO FEED WHAT EVER MAKES YOU HAPPY AS THEY ARE YOUR CHICKS.

HOPEFULLY THIS MAKE YOU HAPPY.
 
Maybe not. I have no way of knowing. But US beef cattle were being fed chicken poo up until Jan of 2004. Yes. Tasty *Beef ... It's what's for dinner* ... they were all chowing down on poultry litter aka manure, shavings, feathers, dead birds, spilled feed, and whatever else is on the floor of the poultry shed. I know the biologists, nutritionists, and scientists have worked years to get the commercial feed recipe *just right,* but it seems icky to me.

“Poultry litter has a calculated value of 50 percent total digestible nutrients (energy). That makes it comparable to average-quality hay,” said Rankins, whose Extension work focuses on beef cattle nutrition. “Research had proven it was a valuable source of energy for both stocker cattle and brood cows. It was also a good source of protein and essential minerals.” Source http://www.aces.edu/dept/extcomm/newspaper/jan30b04.html

I
know. This doesn't prove anything. It's just anecdotal.

When I wrote "leftovers" in animal feed, I was talking about things like outdated bakery goods, outdated chocolate, outdated gum still in the wrappers, poultry by products, the stuff leftover after all the oil has been removed from the soybean. They're looking for ways to feed chickens and pigs the leftovers from biodiesel production. Leftovers. The article above mentions peanut hulls and gin trash. Okay, so they're being smart and not throwing the leftovers into a landfill. And I'm having leftovers for lunch today. So.

Seriously, I'm not saying I haven't or won't ever feed our chickens commercial feed. It obviously is an effective way to feed animals. And it's easier than grinding my own. Much easier.

I HAVE READ THIS SEVERAL TIMES AND WHAT EVER MAKES YOU HAPPY FEEDING THE FEED YOU MAKE IS OKAY.
BUT YOUR QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE CHICKS NOT BEING UNRUFFLED?

WELLQUIT THE AMPROLIUM AN THEY WILL BE FINE.
FEED THE CHICKS WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY.
AND ALL WILL BE OKAY.
 
Thanks for reply.

Why do chicks hold the grit in their crop for weeks? I know that it's supposed to go to their gizzard and then the granite grit grinds the feed there, in the gizzard. But why does grit stay in chicks' crops? I'm sprinkling it on top of their feed like pepper. Their feed has some big chunks in it and I imagine they are getting a little bit of pine shavings, too, that must be ground up somehow.

Yeah, about your comment about the vitamin deficiency. It looks like Vit A deficiency can cause the ruffled feathers. But they're getting Vit A. So. We're going to get some new vitamins in case the old ones were outdated (no date on the package, but bought just a month ago).

Anyway, if anyone else has an ideas, please help. There's a lot we don't know about chicks. I don't even know which questions to ask.

GRIT IN ANY AMOUNT IS NECESSARY AS YOU ARE FEEDING GRAINS.
I SAY THAT PART IS OKAY.
AND RIGHT IN THE AMOUNT YOU SAY YOU ARE FEED IT ON TOP OF GRAINS.
SO THEY WILL EAT IT AND THEIR BODY WILL USE IT.
HOPEFULLY YOU DO AWAY WITH AMPROLIUM AS IT IS POISIONIG THE CHICKS.
 

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