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I just joined this forum, I would reall REALLY like to have some of these chickens, anyone have any eggs for sale?
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Yes, as far as I know there is only the one hookless gene. It sounds to me like your "F1" hens may not carry it after all. If they were produced from an F1 to F1 mating that could explain it. You could test mate them to a Silkie cock to check, the same way you've proven your F1 cock, but I'd say after two years of breeding with no results, they don't have the gene. Have you saved any of the offspring? Even if the hens don't carry the hookless gene, the cock would have passed on his one copy to half of his daughters. With a large enough number of them bred back to him, you should see some silkied chicks.I'll have to go back and reread since my crosses are proving that the silkied Ameraucanas carry the identical silkie gene that Silkies carry. I'm getting approximately 25% silkied chicks from crossing a purebred Silkie hen with an F1 Ameraucana cock. My trio of F1s have not produced one silkied Ameraucana in the two years that I've had them when bred to each other.
I recall a couple of eggs being marked "F2" but they were in the minority. The others were all marked either "F1" or silkied out of about 17 eggs. Not one silkied egg hatched. I moved last fall and had to leave the offspring behind but I still have the trio. I don't have a pen where I could separate them while I'm temporarily staying with some friends. I do have his Silkie cross offspring that I can try mating back to him. I have just one Silkie cock at the moment. He's 12 years old and won't have anything to do with any hen but another Silkie. These are for my own enjoyment only anyway so I really don't care if they have been crossed with Silkies. They have to be outcrossed anyway for hardiness. The Silkie hen that I bred my silkied Ameraucan cock to is also 12 years old. You can't get much hardier than that.Yes, as far as I know there is only the one hookless gene. It sounds to me like your "F1" hens may not carry it after all. If they were produced from an F1 to F1 mating that could explain it. You could test mate them to a Silkie cock to check, the same way you've proven your F1 cock, but I'd say after two years of breeding with no results, they don't have the gene. Have you saved any of the offspring? Even if the hens don't carry the hookless gene, the cock would have passed on his one copy to half of his daughters. With a large enough number of them bred back to him, you should see some silkied chicks.
I still say you need to not keep them in too sterile a situation that they can't develop an immune system. Especially with a large volume of other birds that get respiratory stuff now and then. If they are kept inside, spotless and as clean as possible inside and out, then they get exposed to it all at once going outside or in with other birds yes they will get sick. Mine are raised with all my other chicks thru adults and I have yet to loose 1 bird. And like I said before maybe it's just not happend here yet but seems it would have by now. Mine are exposed to everything here from day 1. If I was keeping them spotless and as bacteria free inside and out of the birds as I could, I'd expect the same results you have had as well.
Quote: Well we didn't from day one, I kept them as babies in the house in brooders, then moved them to outside brooders....some died.We moved them to an outside pen of their own...one or two more died...Evidently they don't like moving.Geez. NOw they have been in this pen for a while. No one else has died. I am crossing everything that they stay healthy...We also put them back on medicated feed since cossidosis lives in the dirt. We are mixing non medicated pellets which they love with the medicated crumble...it is working well. None of mine will lay anytime soon.They are to little but I still compared to some have a lot of these birds. So I am lucky. Glad I got strong birds from you Kim looks like they are the only ones I will have in the end! We have just implemented some bio security measures...like stepping in boot pans of oxine. and humidifiers with oxine have helped ALOT! I think you are right about them being out and not so sheltered since now if they catch something they take meds and are getting better... We have almost gotten rid of the respritory crap completly!AND they are not in brooders anymore they are outside in a pen of their own and then later we will split that for the lines we have.![]()
I'm the first one to say....I just joined this forum, I would reall REALLY like to have some of these chickens, anyone have any eggs for sale?