White crested duck incubation day 27 help please...

[Lacrystol]

@lacrystol, I really appreciate your response. You are an angel. My first two eggs did die before hatching, no internal pip. I did eggtopsy on both. The second was obvious, the brain was on the outside of the skull (they are crested ducks). The first looked underdeveloped. Now I'm on my third egg. It's on day 29 and still no internal pip. It has been pushing at the membrane for 48+ hours. I started a new thread in the hatch curating and hatching forum about it, but if u see this first I don't want to miss out on your opinion! Yesterday, when it had been pushing for more than 24 hrs, I had two people suggest assisting it and two people assist leaving it alone. I chose to leave it alone, really hoping for an internal pip by now. Now it's 48+ hrs later and still nothing. His pushing actually seems to be less intense. But at the moment he is still alive. Yesterday he was pushing like crazy! Today just a little. I'm worried I'm going to lose him too

. I'd love to have any advice you can give me.

Apparently you are not the first one that I have heard his brain's outside the skull, however, are you sure it was the brain, with crested, they have fatty tissue, so it's possible that what you saw was just his fatty tissues..

 

[Lacrystol]

Oh really? A safe hole...ok. Im really nervous. Should i just do the shell or should i try to get his beak through the membrane?

I take it you have never made a safe hole, That's OK..

At the air cell, use a needle or tweezers, you may want to get an egg out of the fridge first, Practice, because you have to know how much pressure to apply, to much pressure, will smash the egg, to little pressure, youll never break threw. so practice first. once you feel comfortable, go ahead and try it on your egg. Needles you can punch right threw, but tweezers I like to pick a spot and twist it around in a circle until it breaks threw.

They have two membranes, one that is up against the shell and the other one that covers him. Break threw the shell threw the first membrane, DON"T touch his, at least not yet. Put the egg to your ear and tap on the shell, he maybe internally pipping and you don't even know it. LOL

If you hear anything guess what, he's internally pipping... Just a SMALL hole, no bigger then the tip of a pen..

 

[Lacrystol]

they only have about 20% air in the air cell, then they run out of air, 48 hours is a long time for him. Surprise he's still going to be honest. Since he is struggling, I have a feeling his sticky. Candle both sides of the egg, the smaller end and the larger end, if you can get me pics that would be GREAT, if not you need to look for ANY empty spaces..

let me know if you see some.

 

[Inga123]

Ok, i did eggtopsy on my first two failed eggs so i understand the different membranes. So im totally understanding u so far....here goes...be back in a min...

 

[Lacrystol]

Ok, i did eggtopsy on my first two failed eggs so i understand the different membranes. So im totally understanding u so far....here goes...be back in a min...

OK great, your first two were very sticky. he may have the same issue. Let me know what the candling looks like, that will tell me how to further help..

 

[Inga123]

Ok im freaking out, i made a tiny hole, i dont hear anything and now he isnt pushing like he was. I see movement in the hole, an up and down movement like breathing. But the hole is too tiny to see what im actually looking at moving. The body under membrane? The beak? Plz help!

 

[Inga123]

I think the membrane looks white, like a coffee filter in there. Dont know if that helps..

 

[Inga123]

There is about 7-10% yellow space at the small end of the egg.

 

[Inga123]

 

[Inga123]