Who else hates being addressed as Ms

[Ridgerunner]

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I don't know why that is turning the tables. I hold the door for male and female, young and old, families with young kids, injured or handicapped, healthy, wherever I think it is appropriate. I thank people that hold the door for me. Good manners is not gender specific. if you hold the door open for me, my response will be thank you.

Just because some men are not gentlemen does not mean that all men are not gentlemen, any more than some women not being ladies does not mean that all women are not ladies. And not all manners are applied courteously. When someone knocks me out of their way on the street and snarls "Sorry" over their shoulder, they may be showing manners, but I sure don't think they are being courteous.

By the way, I know many ladies that do many of the things you listed. I don't see where any of them tie into being a lady or not. My sister could hit a bull's eye better than I could. The carpenter's assistant for a recent job here was female. He did the fine detailed work and she specialized in the heavy work. She never acted other than as a lady around me.

 

[KristyHall]

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I don't know why that is turning the tables. I hold the door for male and female, young and old, families with young kids, injured or handicapped, healthy, wherever I think it is appropriate. I thank people that hold the door for me. Good manners is not gender specific. if you hold the door open for me, my response will be thank you.

Just because some men are not gentlemen does not mean that all men are not gentlemen, any more than some women not being ladies does not mean that all women are not ladies. And not all manners are applied courteously. When someone knocks me out of their way on the street and snarls "Sorry" over their shoulder, they may be showing manners, but I sure don't think they are being courteous.

By the way, I know many ladies that do many of the things you listed. I don't see where any of them tie into being a lady or not. My sister could hit a bull's eye better than I could. The carpenter's assistant for a recent job here was female. He did the fine detailed work and she specialized in the heavy work. She never acted other than as a lady around me.

my post was partially fascicious (i know i spelled that wrong) which is why I put "Ladylike" in quotation marks to scoff at some peoples over zealous view on what makes a lady.

its hard to make a playful post, when such humor relies heavily on tone of voice

 

[al6517]

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Well said indeed.................... I always address women with respect regardless and try to figure out what they think would be polite. But as with all women their are hidden meanings behind what they feel is Proper, so what it really boils down to is, whatever/however you address them they will take some sort of offense, triple if your a guy. I feel that with that attitude women have, I will now just call them HEY LADY !!!!! and leave it at that, I know of course that too will be looked at as offensive but what the hecks a guy to do SHEEEES !!!!!. I may just hang a chocolate bar around my neck all day so they will at least have something nice to say.

 

[EmtheFishLady]

I did tech support for a tax software company for a few years, and we always had this ONE client, just ONE, who would go absolutely INSANE if we called her "Ma'am" She would go BALLISTIC. Now, our company being based in the south, of course it happened a lot. I did it once or twice. She claimed it was another word for a "Lady of the night"....

 

[KristyHall]

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Well said indeed.................... I always address women with respect regardless and try to figure out what they think would be polite. But as with all women their are hidden meanings behind what they feel is Proper, so what it really boils down to is, whatever/however you address them they will take some sort of offense, triple if your a guy. I feel that with that attitude women have, I will now just call them HEY LADY !!!!! and leave it at that, I know of course that too will be looked at as offensive but what the hecks a guy to do SHEEEES !!!!!. I may just hang a chocolate bar around my neck all day so they will at least have something nice to say.

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uh...
*sighs*

 

[EmtheFishLady]

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See, this just makes me giggle. Because you're either kidding, or you really are that delusional.

 

[al6517]

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See, this just makes me giggle. Because you're either kidding, or you really are that delusional.

No Not kidding at all, but still just making light of the whole dilema. When people address me as............ Sir, or Mr, or Dude or anything else I just realize they are just trying to be polite regardless, and I acknowledge that in kind.
What it boils down to is I am simply trying to be polite so if they have an issue with how I address them I really don't care one bit, I will call them what I feel comfortable with, And let them deal with their little ego problems.

 

[EmtheFishLady]

Ok, so the generalization about women was a joke right? Because if not...wow.

 

[twentynine]

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See, this just makes me giggle. Because you're either kidding, or you really are that delusional.

No Not kidding at all, but still just making light of the whole dilema. When people address me as............ Sir, or Mr, or Dude or anything else I just realize they are just trying to be polite regardless, and I acknowledge that in kind.
What it boils down to is I am simply trying to be polite so if they have an issue with how I address them I really don't care one bit, I will call them what I feel comfortable with, And let them deal with their little ego problems.

Nevermind better keep my mouth shut!

 

[EmtheFishLady]

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No Not kidding at all, but still just making light of the whole dilema. When people address me as............ Sir, or Mr, or Dude or anything else I just realize they are just trying to be polite regardless, and I acknowledge that in kind.
What it boils down to is I am simply trying to be polite so if they have an issue with how I address them I really don't care one bit, I will call them what I feel comfortable with, And let them deal with their little ego problems.

Dilusional?

Hardly. He has "seen the elephant"!

Offer a door for one of them harridans, render a polite salutation Ms, Miss, Madam, Madame, or "Mornin' M'am" you'll not only get a snear, but you liable to get the boys busted too! The next day, same woman, she'll stand infront of the door waiting, and snear because you didn't offer the door and a mornin' ma'm.

In my part of the southI was taught that ma'm was short for mademoisell, not madam.

I was also taught that madam or madame was a term of respect shown an elder, wise woman. Such as a grandmother. Never was I taught that it meant the proprietor of a brothel.

I guess I was raised in a much sheltered home. Truly, in my own opinion a salutation such as Mr, Sir, Ms, Miss, Ma'm, Mrs all denote a term of respect. Why not accept it just for what it is.

Offering the door is a polite jesture.

Offering a "mornin' ma'm" is a polite jesture.

Ok, you might get a few women, maybe A LOT of women who do that. But I'm a woman, and I don't. I promise. So next time you see me, go ahead and open the door. You'll get a polite thanks.