Why do people want to sell the wrong breeds????????????????????????????

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I don't understand why so many people in Ohio and Kentucky want to sell you Plymouth Barred Rocks as Dominique chickens. Most of them are ole timers :( . And lets face it folks, you can't argue with your Elders out of respect.
 
Iv'e also ran into a couple people that tried to sell Gold Comets as Rhode Island Reds, are people just blind or what? lol
 
Because there is a lot of genuine confusion about what is a Dominique and what is a Barred Rock going all the way back to when Barred Rocks were first developed, in part from Dominiques. I was a grown man before I found out we'd been keeping Barred Rocks all along rather than the Domineckers we thought they were. But that may be because because the grandparents and great-grandpartents who taught us these things never knew them as two separate breeds.

The confusion about Rhode Island Reds, New Hampshires, and various red sex-links (Comets, etc.) is much the same. They look kinda-sorta the same so if you're not a poultry aficionado you may not realize there is any difference. New Hampshires are a strain selection from Rhode Island Reds and red sex-links may have one or other of the pure breeds as one of the parent lines. If you are not breeding and/or showing you may not ever learn the difference.

Some folks you can educate about the differences while others you just have to let go their way. I sell sex-links and run into this frequently. Especially when it comes to why I am selling my commercially bred birds for more than the fellow down the row is asking for his backyard Rhode Island Reds.
 
Because there is a lot of genuine confusion about what is a Dominique and what is a Barred Rock going all the way back to when Barred Rocks were first developed, in part from Dominiques. I was a grown man before I found out we'd been keeping Barred Rocks all along rather than the Domineckers we thought they were. But that may be because because the grandparents and great-grandpartents who taught us these things never knew them as two separate breeds.
The confusion about Rhode Island Reds, New Hampshires, and various red sex-links (Comets, etc.) is much the same. They look kinda-sorta the same so if you're not a poultry aficionado you may not realize there is any difference. New Hampshires are a strain selection from Rhode Island Reds and red sex-links may have one or other of the pure breeds as one of the parent lines. If you are not breeding and/or showing you may not ever learn the difference.
Some folks you can educate about the differences while others you just have to let go their way. I sell sex-links and run into this frequently. Especially when it comes to why I am selling my commercially bred birds for more than the fellow down the row is asking for his backyard Rhode Island Reds.

I fully got your point Allen

Why Allen, you don't sell your eggs for $1 a dozen or layers for $5 each?, why that is pure blasphemy, LOL J/K by the way.
But it is true about things(people) getting stuck in ruts(time) and expect such things(names of chickens and prices) to be a set rate for all of eternity, I reckon.

In 1982-85 I was selling eggs for .75 cents/ doz. starting out and got up to $1.25 after a while and could get $5 a piece for layers all day long, and feed was $6.50 to 7 something a sack then.
Now 30 years later feed is more than doubled that and I can hardly sell a dozen eggs for more than $1.50 a dozen to the local yokels(they will go to wal-mart and pay over $2 for those sickly, pukified, older than dirt eggs tho) and its like pulling hens teeth to squeeze out $15 dollars a head outta them for POL(production type) pullets. Somewhere down the line things have surely gone awry in this podunk era of time around here. I can't wait to see their faces when they show up to buy from me in the future now that I have a whole lot better stock (heritage birds now) and the 15 bucks a head will be surely double that or they can go on down to the local auction and buy those "wore-out" old hens for $ 25 dollars a head that all they are good for is dumplings and three or four hours of boiling them just to chew them up enough to strangle down the ol gullet LOL.
Just don't make sense,

Oh and this is an example of why any barred pattern(black and white striped) bird is still called a Dominecker/or Dommer to this day still yet.

Thought I might put a sentence in her for relevance to the ? at hand. LOL

Jeff
 
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I'm constantly having to correct people on Doms vs BRs. Oh, you have barred rocks they say..... No, I have Dominiques, there is a difference. They then reply,,,no, those are Barred rocks, see, they have black and white stripes, so they are Barred Rocks. No I say, there is a difference. These have zig-zag stripes, and they don't line up. These have rose combs, Barred Rocks have single combs. etc, etc. most just shake their heads and think that I am stupid. Just ignorance, I suppose, and the need for some people to be right, even if they are incorrect... A visitor also said, "oh look, you have Ameraucanas!" I said, "No, these are Easter Eggers, there is a difference..." and on it went. They had been told by whomever they got their EEs that they were Ameraucanas, therfore I was wrong and they were right. Weird.
 
Plymouth Barred Rocks and Dominique were the same breed an will always be the same breed to 99% of the chicken people in the world. Show breeders are generally the only ones that even care that some association many many years ago decided to split the breed in to two names. Why should the rest care. It has no effect on them cause they don't show an are not members of that association.


Pretty much just have to get use to it or find a breed without a name change in its history cause if it was going to change it would have by now.
 
I hatch all my own birds. People ask me what kind of birds I have I tell them Texas Reds. I have 51 Texas Reds & one DOM. She was a rescued chicken & what a hard time she had with all the Reds. She finally got excepted but what a mess. It took over a year for her to get excepted.
 
My point is people should know what their selling is all. Maybe I'm taking this chicken thing to serious? All I know is I wanna get what I pay for, isn't that everyone? If you didn't like chocolate ice cream and someone sold you it instead of vanilla, is that right?? Get your facts straight before you sell, if I had to go by what someone told me all the time, I'd be screwed.
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Thats another reason why there's so many mix breed chickens, dogs, etc.... Cause nobody knows what they have,
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Study what you got, it's not that hard I promise. I have an 8th grade education and study things in life everyday.
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