Why don't people listen... Rant

[Cryss]

Because they are lazy. Simple as that.

I did everything wrong out of ignorance. Everything. Thankfully I found this site early and took advice seriously. That’s the key, taking advice seriously. I didn’t do things wrong because of laziness, but from ignorance. I ordered my chicks and bought a TSC coop. I figured the coop had to be the right thing since it came from a farm supply place. Ignorance. You don’t expect lies from a place like that. Once I assembled the coop and waited for my chicks I wanted to know what came next. I found this site and learned that it wasn’t what comes next, it was what should have happened before. Not lazy, just naive type ignorant. As for someone who has been given advice and ignores it that’s ignorance of a lazy genre.

 

[Rooapalooza]

This really worries me about the dogs. Would she be receptive to finding a different home for them? That is a very active breed that needs, like any dog, companionship and training, and even more exercise and stimulation than other breeds. If she's got the money, and it sounds like she does, she can build a chicken fortress, which will not require any guard animals.

 

[Matilda Belle]

Sadly, this is my experience in my job (IT-consultant). It has become so difficult to explain more complex things to people because you are just loosing them after a very short time. And some things cannot be explained in one sentence. - Taking care for poultry for example. I guess we could chat for hours about what you need to do, what your can do and what you should not do ever. (You still here?) People are no longer reading books or manuals, they just want am instruction-video, but a short one. Like "just press this big red button and every problem is solved" - and yes, your red button is the biggest one in the world…

What doesn't help is the amount of misinformation about poultry on the internet...especially in Facebook poultry groups where anybody with a keyboard is an expert.

 

[Rooapalooza]

I did everything wrong out of ignorance. Everything. Thankfully I found this site early and took advice seriously. That’s the key, taking advice seriously. I didn’t do things wrong because of laziness, but from ignorance. I ordered my chicks and bought a TSC coop. I figured the coop had to be the right thing since it came from a farm supply place. Ignorance. You don’t expect lies from a place like that. Once I assembled the coop and waited for my chicks I wanted to know what came next. I found this site and learned that it wasn’t what comes next, it was what should have happened before. Not lazy, just naive type ignorant. As for someone who has been given advice and ignores it that’s ignorance of a lazy genre.

Me too. It's not laziness so much as misunderstanding and getting bad information, combined with complacency. I bought a TSC coop, then laughed like crazy when I built it. I literally called to ask if I was missing the rest of it.

Then I made my own run. I thought my setup was secure because it lasted for years without any predator attacks, then suddenly I lose all my flock in one night. I see that on here all the time. Thank goodness they are chickens and not human children at least. Should there be a mandatory class/training before anyone gets to take care of another living being? I think so.

@WannaBeHillBilly To be fair, they write those user agreements and instruction manuals with the assumption that they won't be read. There's too much in everyone's faces all the time now, one of the instincts people had to develop is filtering out unnecessary info.

 

[Cryss]

Me too. It's not laziness so much as misunderstanding and getting bad information, combined with complacency. I bought a TSC coop, then laughed like crazy when I built it. I literally called to ask if I was missing the rest of it.

Then I made my own run. I thought my setup was secure because it lasted for years without any predator attacks, then suddenly I lose all my flock in one night. I see that on here all the time. Thank goodness they are chickens and not human children at least. Should there be a mandatory class/training before anyone gets to take care of another living being? I think so.

@WannaBeHillBilly To be fair, they write those user agreements and instruction manuals with the assumption that they won't be read. There's too much in everyone's faces all the time now, one of the instincts people had to develop is filtering out unnecessary info.

I just entered my third year with chickens. So far I’ve had no losses. I’m petrified of it happening. I’ve built a walk in coop and the 10X30 run is chain link dog run panels covered in 1/2 inch hardware cloth.

 

[21hens-incharge]

Fortunately, she is now listening, researching, and making the needed changes.

Thing that gets me, in this day and age where info is easy and accessable, why don't people research and educate themselves before jumping in feet first?

My thought is far to much is automated....done for ya stuff so thinking, problem solving, hands ON is going by the wayside.

The problem is that people nowadays expect to get all the necessary info within 160 characters (SMS/Squatter) which won't work. Any longer text will start to fade away after the 161st letter and

∆∆ this is so very true ∆∆






I was blessed in that even though I got chickens before BYC existed and I didn't have a computer anyway I had great people at the feed mill that took the time to help me learn.

I didn't count...did I go over 160 characters?

 

[WannaBeHillBilly]

I did everything wrong out of ignorance. Everything. Thankfully I found this site early and took advice seriously. That’s the key, taking advice seriously. I didn’t do things wrong because of laziness, but from ignorance. I ordered my chicks and bought a TSC coop. I figured the coop had to be the right thing since it came from a farm supply place. Ignorance. You don’t expect lies from a place like that. Once I assembled the coop and waited for my chicks I wanted to know what came next. I found this site and learned that it wasn’t what comes next, it was what should have happened before. Not lazy, just naive type ignorant. As for someone who has been given advice and ignores it that’s ignorance of a lazy genre.

I hear you! Never had any poultry in my life before we moved to WV. My wife wanted ducks because she loves duck eggs and »ducks are so much quieter than chickens« gig).
So we went to the farm store, bought six ducklings without even asking for the breed or the gender, spent a fortune for a pre-built chicken cube (for ducklings!), feed, waterer, feeder, heat-lamp, …
Only to discover that three week old ducklings wouldn't need a heat lamp in August (turn it off! peep! turn it off!), the chicken cube is impractical and difficult to clean and absolutely insufficient for ducks for the winter…
Lessons learned and BYC joined, now i'm taking in rescue ducklings and successfully integrate them into my mixed flock.

 

[WannaBeHillBilly]

What doesn't help is the amount of misinformation about poultry on the internet...especially in Facebook poultry groups where anybody with a keyboard is an expert.

Agree, it should be renamed to Fakebook!

 

[chrissynemetz]

And then you have people like one of my neighbors... she refuses to take advice from anybody because her grandmother's neighbor's sister's hairdresser's boyfriend once had a chicken farm, therefore she's the reigning chicken expert

This lady had chickens for like five minutes and was trying to tell me I've been feeding my chickens the wrong food for the past 40 years

 

[WannaBeHillBilly]

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@WannaBeHillBilly To be fair, they write those user agreements and instruction manuals with the assumption that they won't be read. There's too much in everyone's faces all the time now, one of the instincts people had to develop is filtering out unnecessary info.

I agree with you entirely on those »agreements«. Those have been designed to discourage you from reading them, so you will happily sign away your soul.
Also agree for those »manuals« that come with CCC (Chinese Cheap Crap) products, sometimes a random mixture of English (?) words.
But i'm talking about the instruction documents that i tailor for my customers.
I am convinced that I have mastered the English language well enough to be able to write understandable instructions. I do my best to not to write my documents boring as chewing on cardboard, even include some jokes, like »After you click on the Install button you are free to have your lunch break, because this step will take at least an hour.«
And yet still people don't read them thoroughly. Make costly mistakes and blame the documentation. More and more i observe that humons are no longer able to understand a sentence, consisting of a major and minor clause and if a sentence covers more than two lines it is "game over". Subject, predicate object, that works. "Press red button." "Seek cover." "Survive end of world." That's just what the younger generation seems to be able to understand. Loved to read Douglas Adams, but most people nowadays are incapable of understanding sentences like "The ships hovered in the sky in the very same way as bricks don't."