Wisconsin "Cheeseheads"

[Celtic Chick]

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I am hoping for your sake it is not, but this sounds like Mareks. Of course it is so very difficult to diagnose a chicken on anything. Can you move her leg and see if it is broken? Then you would know if the leg was broken and set it and it would not be Mareks. I would give her probiotics(buttermilk) and some garlic, cinnamon and ginger in her food.

Thanks for the response..Im getting very nervous now about mereks!!! I have 12 chickens that are 4-6 months old!!! Curious: What is the garlic, cinnamon, and ginger for?

Can you vacinate older chickens for Mareks? will it help at all? or only as day 1/2?

Also, has anyone had any luck with using hypercium/St Johns Wort or collarium (Spelling?) silver for treating Mareks? Found some posts from old timers that recommended this?

If the only symptom she has is not being able to stand, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that she has a disease, especially Marek's. She most likely just injured herself. I've had a few chickens that would limp for a day or 2, then be fine after that.

The best thing you can do is give her a very thorough examination of her entire body and spend a lot of time observing her behavior. You said she is eating well: that is a good sign. How do her stools look? Does she have any gurgling or other problems breathing? Feel her legs & feet-does she push back when you push on her feet? Does she seem to be in any distress? Is she tired looking, low energy?

Cinnamin is an antioxidant. I've read about giving them garlic, but for the life of me, I can't remember why. No idea about the ginger. If you want to, you could put some vitamins & electrolytes in her water, like Sav-A-Chik or Vitamins & Electrolytes from Durvet. If you don't have or can't find either, 2 or 3 drops of the infant Polyvisol No Iron formula a day might help boost her immune system & help her heal. Chickens need a lot of vitamin A in their diet to stay healthy, so you could give her some treats high in that. Some foods high in vit. A are: broccoli, butternut squash, carrots, sweet potatoes, pumpkin, mangoes & tomato juice. You could also cook her up an egg for a little extra protein if you wish.

I'm thinking from what you described that she just has an injury, so keeping her isolated, quiet & warm in an area where she can't move around too terribly much would be a good thing, along with keeping a close eye on her for any changes. Make sure she continues to eat & drink and she should heal up pretty quickly if she doesn't have any broken bones. This is just my opinion. Jim, TO & some of the others probably have better advice than I.
Good luck.

 

[Angiebubs]

Thanks Tiki244. I am scouring for info and posting in the "emergencies" sections as well. Just wanted to get some "friendly advice from the locals" as well....

 

[Celtic Chick]

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You go, girl! My thoughts exactly.

I'm glad your one guinea is getting better & the other wasn't an owl snack.

Annie, I really hope your hand heals up fast. That has got to be one of the worst.

Jim, my 4 new girls don't like going in the coop either. They do eventually, but not until late, like 10:30ish.

DrH, thanks for mentioning bumblefoot, and thank you, Tiki, for posting that link. Very informative. I guess DH will be chasin' a huge, wild roo this weekend. I can just hear it now.............

And you're right: I named him Moose for a reason. He's a big 'un. But he's a gentle giant. And quite the "chicken" too. He is still somewhat afraid of DH & I, even though we've had him for almost a year now. He's gonna love being chased around by us. NOT! I'll have to keep you all informed on how that one goes.

Enjoy the rest of your day, all! Got lots of stuff to do yet & none of it is getting done. I really should just turn this thing off for a few days so I can accomplish something besides chatting.

 

[tiki244]

Angiebuds https://sites.google.com/a/poultrypedia.com/poultrypedia/poultry-podiatry I found this looking for the spice formula. Sounds like it could help both of us.

Point taken CC

Awe Meg got 3rd place

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=8000011#p8000011 page 1 and 2

 

[Terri O]

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Hey Jim are you talking aobut the post you deleted after the guy made the comment on how weird BYC users are? I think Bee's comment was directed at HIM not you. That is what a troll does; they make a statement just to get people all up in arms...that's why she said to please ignore that type of posting. Unless she sent you a message to the contrary and I read it wrong...I thought your response to him was actually very good...also he has a point too...for what it's worth!
Man, I was just going to read all and catch up and DH messaged me and said he "needs" potato soup for a potluck at work tomorrow!

Kinda reminds me of the "Mom I need 15 dozen cookies for school tomorrow..." line.

Back later, he's getting the easy kind!
Terri O

 

[FrenchToast]

Hey TO and Cindlady !!!! Attention Attention !!!

Madison called me today and cancelled my appointment so I won't be comming down tomorrow. I couldn't get online today for some reason. I'm in Antigo at Mc Donalds. Sorry for the late notice.

Have to rescedule when I can get to both docs on the same day again. Of course I cancelled the later appointment in Milw. Don't want to do more driving then need be.

Will post later. Hopeully my broadband will be working ??????? I unplugged it sometimes that helps, needs a rest I guess.

Tiki244, yes I went to get runner ducks and ended up with a pot bellied pig. An unaltered male. Ten months old. Dh will love me when I tell him I want to get him neutered.

Yesterday he was almost made into pork chops !!!! I went to feed him and give him attention and he kept jumping on me. He did that the other day but wasn't very agressive at it. Yesterday he was "charging" me, learned that term on a PBP site yesterday. GREAT they CHARGE at you trying to take over the alpha role !!! Good thing there were walls to hang onto because He was charging me from the front, back any which way he could. He would stand on his hind legs and lung his mouth at my well, lets just say if your were a rooster you'd soon be a hen !!!! I ended up even kicking him to get him off me !!! I feel bad about it but what was I suppose to do? I didn't kick hard or anyplace that I think would do permanent damage. He kept lunging and charging !!! He was breathing very heavily. I was so confused as to what he was really trying to do I even tried bending down to see it "IT" was you know trying to well "do it" !!!

Boy did that tick me off as well as dissappoint me. I was sure I'd have to get rid of him if he would continue that. Looks like I'll have to neuter him too. They say it should be done when he is just weeks old !! Now I'm sure the price is way up there.

Today he was fine. He walks up to the road and Dh stomped his feet and Mr Piggy came running back home. Interestingly they say to stomp your feet when they do the charging thing, wonder how DH knew that, instinct ???

I bought Mr Piggy a few stuffed toys, got a Build a bear reindeer, he likes it but did't like the christmas ribbon on it , he tore that off already.
Now that I'm in Antigo I'll check out the goodwill here. Never know what you will find !!!
Seems like my sore throat and stuffy nose is back !!! DANG !! Will have to pick up some more Zinc Lozenges.

Ok, bye for now, if you don't hear from me, check the news for "Woman malled by Pot Belly Pig" !!!

 

[jvls1942]

Hi all, I just came in from the guinea coop.. I had to wire it and then plug in the heater.. Of course it took longer than I thought it would, it always does.. and to top it all off the light bulb burned out.. so I ended up in the dark. finished with a flashlight in one hand and a screwdriver in the other.. very awkward..

got 2 goose eggs today.. makes 41..

I found a dead Buff Orp chicken in the coop this morning.. It was the last of the old original girls.. she was about 6 years old.. she prolly didn't want to go through another cold winter, eh? me neither, but I don't want to die over it..

One of the peacocks came in to roost in the guinea pen while I was working out there.. either getting used to me or just wanted to be in where it is warmer.. took to roost just 3 feet from me..

TerriO, I took it as I was being told that I should have told that person to check the first post, but then I should not have added all that other stuff.. I deleted my reply, but it still shows up on the next page .. (DrH)

 

[brandislee]

Hey all! How's everyone (and their chicks...) handling the cold? This is my first winter with chickens and I'm still pretty unsure about how they're doing. They have plenty of space (150 sq feet of covered snow free space during the day plus access to their outdoor yard... not that they go out there... and about 60 square feet of coop that they are closed into at night) and their coop is well ventilated and draft free. But I still worry about if I should add heat and if so when- I've read far more reasons NOT to add heat than reasons to add it. But I worry, mostly about frostbite on my roosters' combs.

So my questions- do you heat? How do you decide when to heat, where to place it, and how much heat? And at what temp to you take actions (Vaseline, etc) to prevent frostbit combs? And I've been using Bag Balm instead of Vaseline because it's what I have on hand- there's no problem with that, right? The base is petroleum and lanolin, so I figure it should work as well as vaseline.

I figure the best people to ask are those with the same/similar climate!

If you need specifics, I'm in East central MN (but I always post on the WI forum because no one ever posts on the MN forum, I actually get answers here!). So far lowest temps have been around 0. We all know it will get colder

 

[Celtic Chick]

Well, you already know how I feel about that one, Jim. As usual, I agree with TO.

Tiki, thank you for not being offended at my response.

Like Jim & others, I usually just type what is on my mind, and sometimes in print it doesn't sound the way I meant it. I know you are just trying to help a fellow BYCer find a solution, but sometimes we read a little too much into something and sometimes fear the worst. I am just as guilty of doing this as the next person. I do like your links that you take the time to post. They are very informative.

FT, sorry to hear about your troubles with the new addition. I guess that is why the lady you got her from sold him so cheap???

BTW, if you do come down here & are going to meet up with Cind or TO, please let me know. I'm not too far from Cind & would LOVE to see you again sometime!

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Isn't that the truth?????????? I am one of the worst judges of time.............
Jim, I bought one of these for DH for those snowy days after work when I can't get out by the birds. I have used it myself, and it is awesome! I think they sell these at Menards too, prolly cheaper too.
http://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-6...TF8&coliid=I392D4XTFKHZGL&colid=1VEAMVGS5EQB0

That's all I got for now. Sweet dreams, all!

 

[jvls1942]

brandislee, this is the first year that I have added heat to my coops.. in fact, I just installed the second one today..

All I wish to accomplish is to keep the water from freezing and frost from forming on the walls..

i bought 2 small electric heaters from Menard's for about $19.oo each and thermo cubes for $10.oo each.. the thermo cubes can be found in the plumbing area, although they are electrical devices.. I don't know, don't ask me..

anyhoo, the thermo cubes turn the heater on when the temp ets down to 35F and off when the temp gets up to 45F..

the chicken coop is insulated and it is 12 feet by 14 feet and the guinea coop is not insulated, 10 feet by 11 feet.. the guinea coop is the one I just hooked up tonight.. after only 1 hour the temp was already up to 45F..

tonight should be a good test for both coops as the temps outside are going to be in the single digits..

I do not wish to make the inside temps too high, because I turn all the birds loose outside (their choice) each day.. when they no longer want to go out, I will keep the doors closed and they can stay in..

I feel that by keeping them with access to water at all times, will enhance egg production.. and I feel that the feed I give them will not all go just to keep themselves warm..