Wisconsin "Cheeseheads"

Hi All, 

I need your thoughts.   My pullets spend 6-8 hours free ranging daily but I know they are hungry because when I put out chicken feed they go NUTS!   I recently bought layer pellets but realize this might not be best for the 10 week olds and they seem to have a hard time eating it because of the size.   I ground some up and that works but I wonder about nutrition.

We lost one the other day.  Her beak was broken and I wonder if she just couldn't eat well because of it.   We have another barred rock that seems a bit lethargic.   We isolated her last night with a heat lamp and gave her water with a bit of vinegar and electrolytes but that really got me thinking about the feed and its appropriateness for this young age. 

What do you feed your free range chicks and pullets?   I'm expecting eggs anytime from my 20 week olds..........

I thought of 2 other things.  

1.  How do you teach them to drink from nipples?   They won't do it and they dump water from the hanger everywhere!

2.  I use sand in the coop.   Its dirty!  and wet.... How often do you clean your coops.  What do you use? 


Okay well I don't have answers for it all but we currently have several 11 week olds in with our adult flock and we have them all on grower. I know not the best idea per we but our big girls are also molting as well so I figured the higher protein would help them. We also have egg shell out always. We would have them on all flock but our local store only carries all flock in pellets. We tried to switch our girls to pellets last fall and they would not eat it and several of them started losing weight. So I'm not really sure how to switch. They do pretty well cleaning up the crumble mess they make but I'm sure it's still wasting some. Anyone have any suggestions on switching them over?

Also we had no luck switching them to nipple waterers. Ours were the ones with the little cup that they peck the thingy and water runs into the cup. Didn't work at all. We would let them out for free range every day and they would all go running out an drink from the pails under the spigot. Very frustrating. We finally switched them back after weeks and weeks of trying with no luck. We have considered switching them to a vertical nipple system but I don't want my flock to die of dehydration. Any suggestions on that would also be appreciated.

Now I don't think that ten week old would starve if placed on layer feed unless it couldn't eat the pellets, or it was getting bullied and not being allowed to eat.

We keep our feeders and waterers on old milk crates in the big girls' side and they very rarely get spilled or messed in. We have a couple waterers that are three gallons from last year at farm and fleet, our local one doesn't carry them anymore. This is very frustrating because the base is one solid piece which cuts down a ton on the leaking. We got a couple 5 quart dark green ones for the grow outs this year and we hate them. They don't lock shut real well but they're made in such a way that the water unless perfectly flat just runs right out the cracks where the lid locks on the base. We will not be buying any more of these.

As the feed does fall a bit under the milk crates we move their positions in the coop once or twice a week and the birds love to scratch through and clean up the mess.

We use shavings and generally clean the coop once a month depending on how it is or we will use the deep litter method and add to the shavings making it last much longer.

I hope this helps. We definitely went through the whole hanging waterer thing and find we much prefer them on a raised sturdy base. We've also used scrap wood to build bases too.

We like the shavings BC we can compost them and use them in the garden or flower beds plus the fresh shavings smell so great. And the flock gets something nice and soft to lay on(we do have silkies and a few other birds that don't generally roost I believe other than the silkies it's due to their size)

Hth.
 
good afternoon,

firstchic, up above you will find a box that says size.
click on it and pick a number. I am using 20 . then click on the B box and you will have what I am using. (20 Bold)


this is 28 Bold.

this is 8 ..

You can trick your chickens into switching feed by adding some of the new stuff to the old style, gradually decreasing the old style until they are using the new. It takes about two days,.
I am not a fan of nipple waterers. had some bottles for the young chicks once. they used it OK, but they always had a drip or two fall after they were done drinking, and the area was always wet..

I got GS Kalib to do some tilling and we planted the last patch of corn.
I rotilled inside the green house and we laid down paper all around the perimeter and covered it with straw batts .

I will be planting a dozen tomato plants in there, and 8 peppers.

It is supposed to start raining here right about now. that should give the corn a good start.

......jiminwisc.......
 
DS dug some wild asparagus from up north and brought them home.....we planted them on the side of the garden. Did not water them either, Jim, cause we know it will rain. Now that all the younger generation go in the coop with the old girls I feel alot better.....won't have to take the umbrella out to cover them.....hehehehe. We planted some cherry hedges last weekend....they still look like sticks sticking out of the ground. It is gonna be a good year. I am as healthy as a horse, even an old one, and hoping everyone on here is too.
 
I want to come with DS to see your place some time Jim if that is ok with you. Want to see what it is you do and how you have everthing set up.
 
good morning,
I am all cuppa'd up already.
we didn't get much, if any rain last night.
looks like we will have to wait til about noon today for some.


Firstchic, looks like you got the bold and big all figured out.
I really appreciate the larger print with my bad eyes and all.


You are welcome to come any time , just PM me for directions etc.

I think it is about 75 miles from C.Ville to Wausau ?

maybe I can get the tomatoes in before it rains today.

..........jiminwisc........
 
Okay well I don't have answers for it all but we currently have several 11 week olds in with our adult flock and we have them all on grower. I know not the best idea per we but our big girls are also molting as well so I figured the higher protein would help them. We also have egg shell out always. We would have them on all flock but our local store only carries all flock in pellets. We tried to switch our girls to pellets last fall and they would not eat it and several of them started losing weight. So I'm not really sure how to switch. They do pretty well cleaning up the crumble mess they make but I'm sure it's still wasting some. Anyone have any suggestions on switching them over?

Also we had no luck switching them to nipple waterers. Ours were the ones with the little cup that they peck the thingy and water runs into the cup. Didn't work at all. We would let them out for free range every day and they would all go running out an drink from the pails under the spigot. Very frustrating. We finally switched them back after weeks and weeks of trying with no luck. We have considered switching them to a vertical nipple system but I don't want my flock to die of dehydration. Any suggestions on that would also be appreciated.

Now I don't think that ten week old would starve if placed on layer feed unless it couldn't eat the pellets, or it was getting bullied and not being allowed to eat.

We keep our feeders and waterers on old milk crates in the big girls' side and they very rarely get spilled or messed in. We have a couple waterers that are three gallons from last year at farm and fleet, our local one doesn't carry them anymore. This is very frustrating because the base is one solid piece which cuts down a ton on the leaking. We got a couple 5 quart dark green ones for the grow outs this year and we hate them. They don't lock shut real well but they're made in such a way that the water unless perfectly flat just runs right out the cracks where the lid locks on the base. We will not be buying any more of these.

As the feed does fall a bit under the milk crates we move their positions in the coop once or twice a week and the birds love to scratch through and clean up the mess.

We use shavings and generally clean the coop once a month depending on how it is or we will use the deep litter method and add to the shavings making it last much longer.

I hope this helps. We definitely went through the whole hanging waterer thing and find we much prefer them on a raised sturdy base. We've also used scrap wood to build bases too.

We like the shavings BC we can compost them and use them in the garden or flower beds plus the fresh shavings smell so great. And the flock gets something nice and soft to lay on(we do have silkies and a few other birds that don't generally roost I believe other than the silkies it's due to their size)

Hth.


Thank you for the valuable information. Perhaps I will switch the shavings. Where do you buy them?

I had read in many places the sand worked really well but it just seems to compact and get wet.
 
I just came in from bird watching.
Annie saw a white headed eagle fly up from just behind the blackberry patch, it landed in the lone pine in the middle of the field. we took turns looking through binoculars at it until it coasted down the hill to the woods.
maybe what is taking the young chicks is not a mystery anymore.


Annie found one Buff Orp lying in the garden, pretty beat up. I have it in the spare bator with high humidity, food and water. It seems to be holding status quo .

.........jiminwisc.......
 

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