Wisconsin "Cheeseheads"

gonna do my critter chores shortly. Perhaps some laundry and cleaning of the house...I hate cleaning but it's all part of it I guess. And later this morning it's off to nueskes with my mom. I always get her a gift card for a different place like that every Christmas. It's easy and she digs it. Jim I have to plant some new trees this spring. My apple trees still produce but the trunks are cracking and the apples become fewer and fewer every year. There's a place in town I buy trees from and have had really good luck with. One of my friends bought some dwarf apple trees and he had fruit in 3 years I guess.
 
gonna do my critter chores shortly. Perhaps some laundry and cleaning of the house...I hate cleaning but it's all part of it I guess. And later this morning it's off to nueskes with my mom. I always get her a gift card for a different place like that every Christmas. It's easy and she digs it. Jim I have to plant some new trees this spring. My apple trees still produce but the trunks are cracking and the apples become fewer and fewer every year. There's a place in town I buy trees from and have had really good luck with. One of my friends bought some dwarf apple trees and he had fruit in 3 years I guess.

I will probably have to buy a couple of trees, but I could never find the breed of the two that I have. so that is why I am trying to clone them.

apple trees are long term projects. on the other hand, the elderberries and grapes are quick gratification.

I am thinking of putting in a row of asparagus .
I used to have a nice long row of it, but the black walnut trees wiped it out.


black walnut trees are death to any kind of plant that they consider competition . black berries and raspberries don't seem to be affected.. pine trees are safe, too.

I managed to plow the frozen ridges down today. they gave in easier than I expected.

the UPS guy got stuck on our driveway. I had to pull him loose with the Blazer.

I have to stick a bunch of apple cuttings into potting soil tomorrow.

........jiminwisc.........
 
I will probably have to buy a couple of trees,  but I could never find the breed of the two that I have.  so that is why I am trying to clone them. 

apple trees are long term projects.  on the other hand, the elderberries and grapes are quick gratification.

I am thinking of putting in a row of asparagus .
I used to have a nice long row of it, but the black walnut trees wiped it out.

black walnut trees are death to any kind of plant that they consider competition .  black berries and raspberries don't seem to be affected..  pine trees are safe, too.

I managed to plow the frozen ridges down today. they gave in easier than I expected.

the UPS guy got stuck on our driveway. I had to pull him loose with the Blazer.

I have to stick a bunch of apple cuttings into potting soil tomorrow.

........jiminwisc......... 



good evening,

I just came down to turn off the puter.

I did get outside , and I did cut a nice bunch of scions off of the other apple tree.  I have them in water overnight.

those trees are really in bad shape.  

I hope the scions take root .  and I hope the trees hold out until the replacements are producing.

I should have done this many years ago.

..........jiminwisc.......


Jim and anyone else in that has any experience would you mind giving me detailed information/instructions and all the help you can on how to cut and root scions please? I didn't realize you could do that with apples and I have really no experience with doing it but there are two 40-50+ year old Apple trees at my grandparent's house they we very large and mature when they bought the place over 40 years ago and have been wonderful producers sadly in the last couple years bad weather has taken its toll on one of them and it's barely alive. It then got worse this summer when a high wind and an unknown rotten root took the other down. Although it survived the fall it layed over and will need to be cut down in the spring. If I can save even a piece of these trees that I grew up with it would mean so much to us. We will probably also be buying a couple trees but our budget is limited and nothing can replace these two trees. We of course don't know the type. Some years they have been quite small but the last several despite no extra care they have produced apples that rival those of honey crisp apples. They have also produced a ton of apples in the last several years. I had attributed this as a result of me burrying a cat under one of the trees a couple years ago but I don't believe that is fully the reason. If you guys can help me do this I would greatly appreciate it. These trees really do seem like part of the family and my Grandma was very upset when the one fell. You tell me what and how to do and I'll do it. Thanks guys I know they're just trees but they're history heck maybe they're an apple that doesn't exist anymore! Idk but I know that it would be an awesome thing to do.

@jvls1942
And anyone else that can help! Thanks guys.
 
good morning,

chick dreamer,
I am new to this, .. but I did have success with the elderberries, so if I select the right cuttings from the apples I should have some success there, too.


there are utube demo's for this also.
check out propagating apple by rooting,
or taking scions of apple trees.


but here it is the way I do it.
right now, while the trees are still dormant:
go and cut several of this year's growth branches .
I take them inside to do the final cutting.
you want scions that are about pencil thick, more or less..
I kept some as large as a penny.


cut the bottom right close to a bud, (node) at an angle.
make the cut on the opposite side of the node.


now move up the twig about 10 inches. find a node in that area. cut above the node about an inch or so. make this cut flat across .

when it comes to planting, you can tell top from bottom by the angle cut.

they will not grow if you plant them upside down.


you will need some planting medium about 10 inches deep.
I used potting soil for my first try. it worked, but the pail was very heavy to handle.
for the next pail full I used equal parts of peat moss and perlite. (or vermiculite)


I use a 5 gal pail.

Push the scions to the bottom of the pail through the mixture..
this should leave just one node above the top of the soil.


stick them in as many as you have. I try to leave an inch or so between them.. it really doesn't matter..
the worst thing that can happen is that the roots could become entangled. that would be a blessing.. just pull them apart gently at transplanting time.


after they are all in the soil, water it down very generously.
from this point you want the root end kept moist , not soggy .. this is difficult to judge. but at first it doesn't matter either, because you can also root the scions by just sticking them in plain water.. I did not have any luck with that method.


to give you an edge, you can buy a bottle of rooting powder. any kind or brand is OK.
apply this just before you push the scions into the dirt.


what I found with my old trees is that there is no such thing as a straight pencil sized scion.
just do the best you can.


.........jiminwisc........
 
trimming in the doors in the hallway and the new patio door today..joy

trimming is good, it means that the job is almost done.

we went into town this morning, just got home. the roads are in pretty good shape. except our town roads.
they want a referendum on building a one million dollar garage.. maybe if they kept our roads cleaned off better they might gather a little more support ..
a million dollar garage isn't going to help clean off the roads any better.


I should take a nap. going to a birthday/and new year party tonight.

......jiminwisc........
 
i do suppose it means the end is near. It's the worst for last tho for sure. My nailer is leaving dents so I'll be off to menards shortly for some white wood filler. Then tomorrow I can sand the filler spots and touch up the paint. Gonna try baby backs in the pressure cooker a bit later. Supposedly 30 minutes is all they take but we shall see.
 
quick updates I rubbed the ribs with chili powder, smoked paprika, brown sugar, and garlic salt and put them in the pressure cooker with 2 cups of apple juice for 30 minutes. Then sauced them and put them under the broiler for 5-10 minutes. They were phenomenal. Where the hell has this pressure cooker been my whole life !!
 

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