Wolves On My Property!

[herfrds]

Do you know the crap you have to go through to get re-imbursed?
First you have to allow the wolf lovers on your property. Then the crappy never work ideas come out. Hanging pie pans in the fence. Ever try to ride a horse by those stupid things? Dislocating my shoulder is not an option.
Then the cracker shells which only work for a short a time because they get used to them.
Then getting people I don't know to come ride around our property trying to keep the wolves away from the cattle, doesn't work because they will kill at night.
this happens over a period of several months.
All for $450.00

don't think so.

Since you brought up a loss to taxpayers please explain. Same stuff from the same groups trying to run us off of our land and turn it into a Prairie Land Preserve. Same anti ag proaganda.

We do not drive a new truck. Just bought a new feed pick up for $1000 out of a junkyard and it drives like a drunk cow. But there are no gapping holes in the floorboard, the doors shut and the windows roll up all the way. Much nicer when it is 30 below zero.
By the way for every dollar a farmer rancher spends it rolls over 7 times. For every dollar spent by a person in a city it only rolls over 3 times.

 

[VioletBlueIvy]

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Nat Geo recently ran a article plus pictures of the Yellowstone area pre wolf and after, the difference is huge.It is now a very diverse balanced eco system, the way nature planned.

Good posts!

There is legitimacy on both sides of this argument, but unfortunately there is ALOT if misinformation, emotion, inflammation ect that really muddys the waters of this issue.
I would like to hear more solid facts about how to protect your animals from the wolves. I hear dogs are good, and electric fences. I saw a link on another thread about a 'coyote roller' that was pretty cool.

We have wolves here in Maine, but they don't bother anything. The coyotes are a problem though, the eastern coyote has been hybridizing with wolves from Canada long enough now to have become larger and change it's behavior a bit too. My neigbor lost his chickens and a foal to them over the past few years. I lost a cat to them, they came right in my yard and grabbed her, I saw one and I thought is was my BIL's GSD!

Has anybody actually had a wolf/chicken encounter?​

 

[BlackBart]

I have Wolves in the forest behind my place. They are bigger than a large German Shepard.
Never had a problem with them. I have electric fencing. It is on all the time.

Never had a problem with Wolves but Cougars and Bears have been a problem, hence the electric fence.
If you live in a wilderness area, electric fencing is your best bet. It can protect your stock when your not there.

 

[Yardbirds286]

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Amen.

 

[herfrds]

not here BVI. Mostly chicken/coyote encounters.

The biggest problem we have with our eletrical fence is the deer and antelope tear it down all the time. Especially when they go between the wire and not over.
Had some pretty high drifts last year and it was grounding out the wire.

 

[babyblue]

even in pa electric fence is no match for love struck deer in season. or the random trespassing snowmobiler. we have to check our few acer pasture every single time we turn a horse out just in case.

 

[BlackBart]

We don't have a problem with snowmobilers or deer. The Bears haven't broken our fence, yet. We use a cattle charger when the Bears are around.

A few people have had problems with Elk. They switched from wire to electro-polyrope, strung very tight. So far it has worked.

 

[herfrds]

Blackbart did you hear about guys mixing up peanut butter and molasses and soak that poly electrical tape in it and run it around their hay to keep the elk out?
From the reports, the elk licking it fully charged it is something to watch.

 

[Rare Feathers Farm]

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No dog stands much of a chance against a wolf nowadays. LGDs were made to protect against the much smaller wolf of yesteryear that our forefathers fought off and killed. The wolves that exist now in the states are the very large Alaskan and Canadian wolves... They can easily take down a cow or horse with 2-3 wolves.

And as far as livestock, whoever said they won't take down a cow or horse is wrong. Why do you think ranchers in some states get compensation for wolf kills after the (messed up) reintroduction?

Or why do they eat BISON & ELK in Yellowstone? LOL

 

[Rare Feathers Farm]

We have some packs within 40 air miles of us...and we've heard them twice now...so far they are staying over in the Methow Valley--but it still makes me a little edgy!

Just make sure IF they ARE wolves that they aren't collared before you blast them. A rancher (sheep) near us killed one that was collared and he got a HUGE fine...