Worming chickens?

[casportpony]

thank you for that information. It's hard to find specific information on these posts.

Two studies for everyone to read:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9269125
Anthelmintic efficacy of ivermectin against Syngamus trachea and Capillaria spp. in pheasant.

Lamka J1, Svobodová V, Slézková J.
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Abstract

Ivermectin (IVM) was perorally administered in dosage schemes 1 x 0.8 mg/kg of body weight (b.w.), 1 x 1.6 mg/kg h.w., 3 x 0.8 mg/kg b.w., and 3 x 1.6 mg/kg b.w. to pheasants infected by Syngamus trachea and Capillaria spp. The samples of faeces were coprologically examined. The clinical state of pheasant was controlled. In all of the used therapeutical schemes the helminthostatic or partially helminthocide effect against adults of worms was reached. The clinical signs of helmithoses were reduced only. IVM in tested doses is not possible to recommend as an effective drug of pheasant syngamosis and capillariosis.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2816174
Ivermectin as a bird anthelmintic--trials with naturally infected domestic fowl.

Oksanen A, Nikander S.
Abstract

To evaluate the use of ivermectin as a bird anthelmintic, 29 White Leghorn hens naturally infected with Ascaridia spp., Heterakis spp. and Capillaria spp. were treated with 0.2, 2 or 6 mg/kg intramuscularly or 0.2 or 0.8 mg/kg orally. Faecal samples were collected before treatment and at autopsy, 2, 6, or 16 days after treatment, when the intestines were also examined for helminths. None of the treatments gave satisfactory anthelmintic results.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Hav been farming/ranching for 2 decades with over a doz species if animals so we use plenty of diff wormers 4 diff animals & purposes: Valbasan, Cydectin, Ivermectin, COWP & something only sold & used in NZ/Australia (my vet has cautioned about naming bc not allowed in US yet). We farm over 150 animals & in my pers experience, Safeguard is about as effective as speaking harshly to worms but like most everything else in farming, everyone has their go-2 wormer so not my place 2 criticize others. Just detailing what works for me. I know small urban chicken owners dont want 2 hear this but culling along with FAMACHA scaling & a responsible SELECTIVE antihelmitic worming prgrm is the BEST way to maintain a healthy herd/flock. Some flock members are more prone 2 worms than others & should b culled.

Who cares, just name it.... Drugs like Baytril and metronidazole are *banned* for used in poultry, but people use them and mention them all_of_the _time.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

& ivermectin can b an effective wormer if not overused just like any other wormer

Ivermectin might be effective if a large enough dose is given, but it is ineffective when the mfg recommended amount is given.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Hav been farming/ranching for 2 decades with over a doz species if animals so we use plenty of diff wormers 4 diff animals & purposes: Valbasan, Cydectin, Ivermectin, COWP & something only sold & used in NZ/Australia (my vet has cautioned about naming bc not allowed in US yet). We farm over 150 animals & in my pers experience, Safeguard is about as effective as speaking harshly to worms but like most everything else in farming, everyone has their go-2 wormer so not my place 2 criticize others. Just detailing what works for me. I know small urban chicken owners dont want 2 hear this but culling along with FAMACHA scaling & a responsible SELECTIVE antihelmitic worming prgrm is the BEST way to maintain a healthy herd/flock. Some flock members are more prone 2 worms than others & should b culled.

And COWP, what's that used for?

-Kathy

 

[baah]

Haven't lost a chicken due specifically to worms with reg OTC worming solutions over roughly a decade & I live in hot humid territory in east TX, perfect breeding ground for worms, esp this year after record breaking spring & summer rains. It's not rocket science. Selective worming, culling weak/prone individuals, 2x-3x recommended pkg doses, use common sense. IJS...

 

[casportpony]

Anyone reading this thread might want to make note of this.

So I did an experiment with ivermectin to see how big "drop" was, and it's about 0.05ml from the tip of a standard 1ml luer slip syringe, which is 0.5mg (500 micrograms). In doing this experiment I noticed that it felt oily, so I decided to see what happens when put in water. Anyone care to guess? Anyone want to see the pictures?

-Kathy

 

[Free Feather]

Anyone reading this thread might want to make note of this.

So I did an experiment with ivermectin to see how big "drop" was, and it's about 0.05ml from the tip of a standard 1ml luer slip syringe, which is 0.5mg (500 micrograms). In doing this experiment I noticed that it felt oily, so I decided to see what happens when put in water. Anyone care to guess? Anyone want to see the pictures?

-Kathy

...It floats to the top?
Did I get it?

 

[casportpony]

Quote: You are correct!

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Will post pictures later.

-Kathy

 

[ellend]

Any vet can do a fecal exam for internal parasites for you; nothing special about chicken poop, when it comes to worms.

Maggots / flystrike: ALWAYS fatal unless you get EVERY SINGLE maggot out. I do this by putting a drop of hydrogen peroxide in a maggot hole, and standing by with tweezers to grab the bugger when it sticks its breathing end out. You've got to be fast. Keep at it, and you will win. If you miss any, the wound will stay wet and the damage will increase as the maggot burrows further into the tissue, killing tissue with its waste products. After you get every one of them, the wound will dry out and heal nicely. Keep the chicken in an area with NO possibility of flies laying more eggs on the wound or feathers until fully healed, and stain its "bald" spot with an anti-pick solution after it is healed, before putting the bird back with the others. Fly eggs look like small, slender grains of rice, in a clump, and are laid in moist areas. In mammals, particularly orphaned kittens and wildlife, in the "armpits," corners of the eyes, umbilical cord area, anus, genitals, behind ears, and neck. It's only mothers constant grooming that keeps them maggot free outdoors.

Yellow jacket hornets love meat, and will move in on injured tissue and eat live animals, also.

The only two things I don't mind killing: Flies and yellowjackets!