Worming question

[BasicallyHeather]

I wormed my flock for the first time ever last Weds. using Wazine 17% and intend to follow up at the two week point with Ivermectin (sp?). I am still finding adult worms in a bit of the poo...is this normal? I understand how the Wazine works and that it works differently from the Ivermectin, I just wanted to make sure that the passing of dead adult worms is to be expected this long after dosing them. I've never done this before and want to make sure that everyone is healthy! Thanks

 

[unix_micki]

I would love more information on worming also. What to get, how to do it....anything you can offer a newbie?

 

[NovaAman]

Go get a pumpkin... crack it open, and put it down for the birds... Works great. Natural, and NO withdrawl on the eggs... you can even freese pumpkin guts to use again in the spring.

Yes, its normal to see adult dead worms. Your second dosage should finish the worms off.

 

[BasicallyHeather]

Unix, I read some of the other worming threads on here after I found adult roundworms in just a few poos around my yard. I went to Tractor Supply and bought an 8 oz bottle of Wazine 17% and followed the directions on the bottle/in the various threads: 2 TB (1 oz) per gallon of water for the flock. Make it their only source of water for 24 hours. As I understand it, the Wazine paralyzes adult worms, allowing them to be passed through the digestive tract and eliminated. It does not kill eggs, hence the follow-up worming in two weeks with something stronger like Ivermectin.

In the worming threads I read, just about everyone recommends worming in this two-step process, as it's gentler on the birds. Also it is recommended that it only be done in cooler weather. Many posters say they worm as a precaution every spring and fall.

 

[unix_micki]

I have ivermectin paste for horses, how does that work, how do i get them to get it down??

I like the idea of mixing it in their water though.

 

[unix_micki]

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pumpkin, really?? hhmm, may have to get one. I have squash, but it probably isn't the same thing??

 

[unix_micki]

I found this on a search

feed the ground unsalted pumpkin seeds and buttermilk and garlic on a regular basis for worms...

do i just feed them pumpkin seeds then mix buttermilk/garlic??

trying to learn more on worming

 

[DocBirdBrain]

Hello!

Piperazine (the active ingredient in Wazine) is the only de-worming drug approved for use in poultry used for meat or eggs. If you use anything else please be very careful, and don't eat the eggs for a while afterwords!
Ivermectin as a paste for horses is in a much higher concentration than a bird can handle. Since using ivermectin to de-worm birds is an off-label use, it is difficult to find any kind of dosing recommendations. I'll keep looking and see if I can come up with anything.,

Although roundworms are gross, and the fact that they can (very rarely) end up inside an egg completely skeeves me out, they generally aren't a problem in healthy adult birds. Chickens over 3 months of age seem to develop an immune resistance to them. Young, weak, or susceptible birds can develop weight loss, signs of blood loss (pale combs) and potentially get an intestinal blockage with an ascarid (roundworm) infestation.


Pumpkin supplies a huge amount of roughage, and physical "pushes" the worms out of the intestine. How well it, or other pumpkin seed/garlic/hot pepper/papaya seed pastes (I've heard lots of different cures) work hasn't been proven, but if the birds don't seem sick and the treatment doesn't hurt, what does it matter? Use care not to give them too much garlic, however.


Hope this helps!

 

[Spinster_Sister]

what's the deal about garlic? I am poaching cube steak in garlic, ginger, tumeric and rosemary to help with their molt and recovery for one of my hens...is garlic poisonous?

 

[BasicallyHeather]

Hey Doc, I appreciate your reply (everyone else's, too, actually...!). I have tried the pumpkin, but honestly I don't think it was a help. I will try it again, though, before I use the Ivermectin.