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[casportpony]

I've never tried to apply for a variance through FARAD, have you? I have no idea how it would work out. Mary

I haven't... Maybe I'll try, lol.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

@Folly's place , the form has a section for company name or clinic, that alone disqualifies me,

and I'm not gonna ask my vet to do it.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

What would everyone say if I told them that I treated four birds that had feather lice with ivermectin? I did this once before, but only gave them 0.4 mg/kg, orally on some, by injection on others, and it made no difference. My peafowl friends keep telling me ivermectin works for them, so I tried it again, but this time I used the amount they use, which is about 1.5 mg/kg. Gave it orally to 1 peacock, 1 big rooster and two cochin Banties. The next day the lice on the peacock were gone, but the chickens still had a bunch. Would you all believe me if I told you that as of an hour ago, all live lice are gone?

-Kathy

 

[Folly's place]

When I treat for mites or lice, I use the ivermectin on the birds, and clean out the bedding, and use permethrin dust on the floor and roosts before adding new shavings. I'm just not willing to dust each bird individualy, ever again. Mary

 

[casportpony]

When I treat for mites or lice, I use the ivermectin on the birds, and clean out the bedding, and use permethrin dust on the floor and roosts before adding new shavings. I'm just not willing to dust each bird individuals, ever again. Mary

For years I've been telling people that it doesn't work on lice, but I was wrong, it does. Giving ivermectin to a 6 kg peacock or a 15 kg turkey sure seems like a much better alternative, especially the big turkeys, because they get really stressed when handled.

So I'm gonna continue my experiments and see what the optimal effective dose is.

FYI, this experiment might really ruffle the feathers of those that say it won't treat lice. Until today, I was one of those people. I think I will go hide in shame, lol.

-Kathy

 

[aart]

What would everyone say if I told them that I treated four birds that had feather lice with ivermectin? I did this once before, but only gave them 0.4 mg/kg, orally on some, by injection on others, and it made no difference. My peafowl friends keep telling me ivermectin works for them, so I tried it again, but this time I used the amount they use, which is about 1.5 mg/kg. Gave it orally to 1 peacock, 1 big rooster and two cochin Banties. The next day the lice on the peacock were gone, but the chickens still had a bunch. Would you all believe me if I told you that as of an hour ago, all live lice are gone?

-Kathy

Different metabolisms...since you are applying systemically(orally)?
Feather lice only?......how do you see them?

 

[casportpony]

 
What would everyone say if I told them that I treated four birds that had feather lice with ivermectin? I did this once before, but only gave them 0.4 mg/kg, orally on some, by injection on others, and it made no difference. My peafowl friends keep telling me ivermectin works for them, so I tried it again, but this time I used the amount they use, which is about 1.5 mg/kg. Gave it orally to 1 peacock, 1 big rooster and two cochin Banties. The next day the lice on the peacock were gone, but the chickens still had a bunch. Would you all believe me if I told you that as of an hour ago, all live lice are gone? 

-Kathy

Different metabolisms...since you are applying systemically(orally)?
Feather lice only?......how do you see them?

The ones I gave it to recently, I gave it to them orally. Product used was a 1.87% horse paste. Each bird was weighed on an accurate scale. Dose was calculated and at given orally from a 1 ml syringe.

The feather lice were the only bugs seen.

Lice were seen when on the chickens when I parter the feathers and looked at the skin. Lice were running on the skin and hanging out on the feathers.

On the peacock, the only lice that I found were on the head, mostly around the eyes.

Just to be clear, I do know the difference between lice and mites.

-Kathy

 

[aart]

Maybe I'm confusing your use of 'feather lice' with 'feather mites'(which are 'invisible' as they live inside the feather shaft-from what I've read)

So one day to kill live on peas...how many days for chickens?
Again wonders if chickens metabolized it (spread to skin) slower than peas?

 

[casportpony]

Maybe I'm confusing your use of 'feather lice' with 'feather mites'(which are 'invisible' as they live inside the feather shaft-from what I've read)

So one day to kill live on peas...how many days for chickens?
Again wonders if chickens metabolized it (spread to skin) slower than peas?

Maybe I should have said poultry lice... Bugs seen were lice.
https://poultrykeeper.com/external-problems/lice-on-chickens-and-poultry/

I think maybe that the type of lice that the peacock had drink from the eyes, so maybe that's why it worked faster on him?

-Kathy

 

[aart]

Quote: Could very well be...also different 'species'.....'variety'(don't know my nomenclature) of lice is another possible variable.