Worms or Shed Intestinal Lining - Yucky Pics!!

[dawg53]

thanks, I think I'll just wait and deworm her in the next round. she seems to be feeling ok, and by then the chick will be old enough to deworm too. It's a tiny baby and I just am afraid he/she might get into the dewormer water if I give the hen any. Actually the vet didn't give much specifics. It's the Chicken Dr that recommended the Levamisole and he hasn't really responded to questions about the young chick. I thought I would gradually back off on the dewormer over time, we'll just have to see how it goes. I hadn't dewormed them for a long time, that's my fault, but someone told me free range flocks aren't susceptible to infestations ( I know, i'm an idiot for believing that....

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Mine free ranged all the time and got worms. Wait until you have to deal with tapeworms. But that's another story.

 

[chicknmania]

ok. I'm so worried about them all!

I also have four pullets that will be seven weeks old this coming weekend. They are getting ready to go out with the flock. I am hoping the dewormer will not be harmful to them, either. I wonder if starting with the Rooster Booster would be a more gentle way to go? I mean as far the young ones are concerned. The only problem with Rooster Booster is the dosage instructions are to mix in a fifty pound bag of feed, not sure how to figure out a smaller dose.

 

[Tamara119]

Of the 4 main species of capillary worms in chickens, it looks like they reach maturity inside the chicken in 1-2 months. In an infected flock there will be eggs and adults in all stages. The levamisole directions say to repeat after 2 weeks. Chicknmania you said the advice to you was to repeat in 5 days? Subhanalah, probably anytime between 5 days and 2 weeks is fine. The different species do have slightly different maturation rates, so without knowing exactly which species is infecting the chickens it's probably moot.

The Rooster Booster may be a good choice. Since it goes in the feed surely the dosing sorts itself out; smaller chickens eat less food. I figure that feed- or water-based medication can't have a very high risk of overdose, since the exact amount the chicken is ingesting can never be accurately measured.

 

[subhanalah]

What I've found for the wormer (fenbendazole) I'm using is instructed to feed it for 5 days, once a day.
It does not instruct a repeat treatment. Would this cover them until the embryonic is over? Maybe it does kill the eggs?

 

[Eggcessive]

Of the 4 main species of capillary worms in chickens, it looks like they reach maturity inside the chicken in 1-2 months. In an infected flock there will be eggs and adults in all stages. The levamisole directions say to repeat after 2 weeks. Chicknmania you said the advice to you was to repeat in 5 days? Subhanalah, probably anytime between 5 days and 2 weeks is fine. The different species do have slightly different maturation rates, so without knowing exactly which species is infecting the chickens it's probably moot.

The Rooster Booster may be a good choice. Since it goes in the feed surely the dosing sorts itself out; smaller chickens eat less food. I figure that feed- or water-based medication can't have a very high risk of overdose, since the exact amount the chicken is ingesting can never be accurately measured.

This article says to repeat treatment in 20 to 60 days for hairworm (capallaria.) Disregard his advice about ivermectin, ACV, and diatomataceous earth. http://poultrykeeper.com/general-chickens/worming-chickens

 

[subhanalah]

This article says to repeat  treatment in 20 to 60 days for hairworm (capallaria.)  Disregard his advice about ivermectin, ACV, and diatomataceous earth.  http://poultrykeeper.com/general-chickens/worming-chickens

if he's 0 for 3 with DE, ivermectin, and ACV, how do we know what he says about the worms is true?

 

[Tamara119]

if he's 0 for 3 with DE, ivermectin, and ACV, how do we know what he says about the worms is true?

That's exactly what I was thinking, lol.

With suggestions varying between 5 to 60 days, it's hardly an exact science. Sooner than 2 weeks? Maybe too early. 60 days later? Maybe too long. Sometime between 2 and 3 weeks? Sure, sounds good to me. Obviously the important thing is to get the second dosing done. I'll stick with the directions on my levamisole package for poultry, which says 2 weeks.

 

[Eggcessive]

if he's 0 for 3 with DE, ivermectin, and ACV, how do we know what he says about the worms is true?

Mainly because he is a vet who publishes a lot of articles. He is also Australian I believe, and from reading my Poultry Magazine from the UK, many still use DE, ACV, and Ivermectin there and in Australia because everything we can get aside from Flubenvet is not available to poultry owners. They are more prone to use herbal or organic treatments too. You can't even buy coccidiosis meds there without seeing a vet. Anyway, the article is pretty good. Ivermectin used to be very effective, but has lost effectiveness from overuse and worm resistance.

 

[subhanalah]

Mainly because he is a vet who publishes a lot of articles. He is also Australian I believe, and from reading my Poultry Magazine from the UK, many still use DE, ACV, and Ivermectin there and in Australia because everything we can get aside from Flubenvet is not available to poultry owners. They are more prone to use herbal or organic treatments too. You can't even buy coccidiosis meds there without seeing a vet. Anyway, the article is pretty good. Ivermectin used to be very effective, but has lost effectiveness from overuse and worm resistance.

thanks for this. Maybe you can take a look at this and tell me your interpretation?

From Plumb's Veterinary Drug Handbook - 7th Edition

 

[Eggcessive]

The dosage of fenbendazole (SafeGuard, Panacur) for capillaria is 10 to 50 mg per each 2.2 lbs of weight daily for 5 days. If I were worried, I would use the 50mg dosage which is 1/2 ml per 2.2 lb (or 25mg or 1/4 ml per lb) to treat. Many of the studies will show differing amounts and a higher percentage of success with the higher dosage. With chicks I might use the lower end of dosage. Plumb's is the best vet drug handbook out there for dosages.