Yeah, I know I said I hate anti-bark collars, but...

[snugglepup]

He would be a pretty lousy border collie if he stopped herding because he got kicked. Remember, that's what they are bred to do.

 

[helmstead]

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In all seriousness - shock collars are only as inhumane as the person with the remote in their hand.

On that note - the cheap ones that you put on your dog that then are supposed to go off when he or she barks - those are terrible. They will go off with ANY loud noise. Teaches the dog nothing.

We use the Innotek brand remote training collar. It has several settings, works with the invisible fencing and one remote controls two collars. You can choose from 10 different shock settings or do tone only. It's also waterproof and rechargeable (no dead batteries). It works VERY well. It was around $300 a couple years ago. Sure it's less now.

 

[FutureChickenMan]

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Indeed. The one I mentioned above actually has a "probe" (prong) that rests against the dogs neck and picks up the vibration of the trachea (sp) when they bark.

http://www.petsafe.net/catalog/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=22&xc=6

 

[helmstead]

Those I am not familiar with - but the audible ones are offensive. I would still want to test that model out on myself - jumping around, shaking, etc to make sure it was accurate about when to deliver correction.

Personally I think habitual barkers are frustrated dogs that need something (attention, work, food or whatever the case may be). But if it must be corrected, I like remote collars best. Just a personal preference.

 

[FutureChickenMan]

I've seen the ones you're thinking of.. you can clap or yell and the thing would go off. Additionally they're very very hard to adjust for the right sensitivity. Since this one works on vibration it doesn't notice loud noises unless the noise would be loud enough to vibrate the sensor. To test the collar I posted the link to, you drag the sensor probe against something rough. I used the kitchen counter. Yelling, clapping didn't activate the collar at all. I didn't try banging it against something (such as simulating an impact against a doggy door).

I just picked it up and banged it around, tapped the sensor and nothing, no response. Here's some better pictures of the one I have. The knob in the center is the vibration sensor, the outer knobs are the "electrodes".

http://picasaweb.google.com/limegreendream67/Collar/photo#s5151101798282138498

 

[helmstead]

Well...cool! I'm glad there's a solution like that! Thanks for sharing (I now can recommend it to my mother's frustrated dog tee hee)

 

[BarbK]

I have used the same collar and it worked very well the shelty I used to have. Eventually I started saying no bark with the beeps and she learned to stop without the collar. I also tested it on myself to see how bad it was actually shocking (because I didnt like the idea of using it) an found that it wasnt that bad. Did you get the model that increases in strength if the dog ignores it and decreases when they listen? Just think...it is better to use it and continue to give the dog a home than let the dog be homeless. Goodluck

 

[gritsar]

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My thoughts exactly; which is why I agreed to the collar. Jake has a good home here. He is well-fed and well cared for; but I am dead serious when I talk about needing quality rest to battle my illness and with Jake barking every time the cat walked by, I wasn't getting. One night we even observed him barking at his own bark! (I think I posted about this....he would bark, it would echo off the hills behind the house, he'd bark at the echo!).
So here's the deal: Jake wore the collar for a total of four hours tonight (the instructions say not to have the dog wear it for more than 8 hours at a time). The first time he barked (at the cat walking by, I know his barks by now), he got the buzzing noise, the command 'BEHAVE!', and then when he didn't listen, he got a low level shock. Since then he has let out one little yip, got the command and then buzz and shut up before he could get a shock. Worked just like we wanted it to. I think this collar is going to wind up enhancing Jake's quality of life in that I will hopefully be able to resume taking him for long walks with Charlie dog, without having to keep him on a short leash because of his refusal to obey/follow commands. Mind you, Jake knows these commands, he learned them all as a puppy. I may call him the brainless wonder, but he's actually very smart. The problem is as he got older he also became a smart *** and thinks he's the one that is in charge.
Info. about the collar: It's a Sportdog Brand, Yard Trainer SD105S. It has a 100 yd. range and 8 levels of correction. It has the tone button that you use before you use the first shock, so it basically has 3 buttons and a dial. Tone alone button, then the 8 levels button (set by the dial), and what we are referring to as the turbo button. Hopefully we'll never have to go that far.
Thanks for the imput/feedback y'all. I feel much better now.

 

[Carole AM]

This is an interesting thread. Our fosters have started barking-- pretty much at nothing. Sweetie was barking after my husband went to work. We got her a "gentle leader" that does quiet her down! It puts her in a mellow-mode. Thing is, she looks so humiliated when its on.

Now we think Bear is whining--any help for that? Just enought to give me a headache!

 

[okiechick57]

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I had a good laugh with this one

.......... I rememeber someone telling me to take a spray bottle to one of my screaming,fit throwing,out of control kids......I had one dd that would not stop screaming

.......so I tried it.since I do not like spanking......... had the same result as you did with your dog.......almost drown the poor child

....and she kept on screaming.........
Glad you found something that worked !