Sorry,
Ellie
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Sorry,
Ellie
Oh no Cyn, I am so sorry... :aww
* Darn, Cyn-- I'm sorry for you guys. I know how tough, stressfull and devastating and exhausting it is to lose when you fight so hard. I hope and pray all the bad things with your birdies are done and better and better days are ahead. XXX
I am so sorry for the passing of your Lorelei.
You and your DH took such good care of her, and I'm sure she knew that she was loved.
I am hoping that Zane's recovery is complete and I am glad your other girls are on the mend.
Angie
You and your DH took such good care of her, and I'm sure she knew that she was loved.
I am hoping that Zane's recovery is complete and I am glad your other girls are on the mend.
Angie
Oh Cyn!!
I am so sorry!
She is with her sister and Hawkeye... and Hotwing and Nugget... and they are all free ranging and eating all the mealworms a chicken could ever want. HUGS
Oh, gosh, Cyn. I'm so sorry. I'm right there with you. Just lost my beautiful Big Bertha the other day. It's hard, but knowing they're truly free does help to some degree.
You have my heart.
You have my heart.
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Just read you lost her ...so very sorry cyn...
Once again, without a proper necropsy (histology and such that you cannot do at home) you may never figure out what is going on.... outside of oncogenic disease the following is also a possibility (weightloss is most obvious symptom) The excerpted piece is a bit gruesome but feel ppl should be aware that tuberculosis in freerange flocks is a very real and unfortunately common enough occurence:
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/156/tuberculosis
http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/historicpublications/pubs/SC106.pdf
(A historic publication from KS univ from the '30s but with some helpful details not found anymore in the modern publications as this disease is fairly uncommon in modern commercial set-ups)
TUBERCULOSIS. Tuberculosis is generally called going light by the poultryman.It is caused by a microörganism, Mycobacterium tuberculosis,similar to that which is responsible for the same disease in man and cattle. It is not probable that man will contract the disease from fowls but cases are reported where birds have died from the type that affects the human, and it is possible that man may get the disease from birds. It is possible for pigs and calves to get the avian tuberculosis by association with affected birds. Fowls may get the disease from cattle, but the greatest source of infection is from other birds that have the disease. All classes of fowls are susceptible to the infection.
Symptoms.
-The disease runs a chronic course and usually the first indication that it is on the farm is that a bird will be found that is going light. The comb will become pale and when picked up it will be noticed that the bird has very little flesh on its breastbone. (Fig. 11.) The bird will eat well until death and only one or two in the flock may be noticed with the disease at one time, although it is usually widespread in an affected flock. Some birds well advanced in the disease will show lameness.
Post-mortem Findings.
-The surest method of diagnosis is to kill an affected fowl and observe the lesions in the liver, spleen, and intestines. A few will show no lesions at all, but these cases are rare. Lesions are seldom noticed in the lungs. Occasionally the joints are affected, and skin tubercles may be seen. The lesions commonly seen are white to yellow tubercles of various sizes, few to many in number, on the surface of an enlarged liver, and pos- sibly on the surface of an enlarged spleen. These tuberoles may or may not be found along the intestinal tract. (Fig. 12.) When lesions are present in the walls of the intestine they are firm to thetouch, irregular in outline, and yellowish in color. They generally are of cheesy-like consistency and when cut open show a central area of softer material than that which makes up the outer portionof the lesion. Treatment and Prevention.-Treatment of an infected fowl isuseless, and once tuberculosis gets into a flock, destruction of the entire flock is the only sure method of eradication. However, since the disease usually attacks birds over one year of age, a cheaper method is to get rid of all birds of one year of age or over, each year for a number of years, and thus gradually eradicate it from the flock. A third and much better method is to have a competent veterinarian apply the tuberculin test on each bird a t least twice a year and eliminate all reactors. The cost of this method is low when one considers that all well birds can be saved when this testis used as a means of detecting the infected birds. Not only must the infected birds be got rid of, but the premises must be carefully cleaned and disinfected. Especially should allruns under old sheds and barns be closed up so that new birds can not get in these places. The tubercle bacillus will live in dark places under buildings, and in refuse, for long periods of time and if the entire flock is killed new birds should not be brought on the place for a t least six months. During this time the premises should be disinfected at least once a week. Extreme care should be taken to disinfect thoroughly and often in any case. All birds that are killed need not be a total loss, for those showing no lesions are suitable for food if they are thoroughly cooked.
Therefore, if the entire flock is to be killed, the birds may be dressed and those that shown no signs of the disease may be sold to the butcher. All affected fowls should be burned"
Just read you lost her ...so very sorry cyn...
Once again, without a proper necropsy (histology and such that you cannot do at home) you may never figure out what is going on.... outside of oncogenic disease the following is also a possibility (weightloss is most obvious symptom) The excerpted piece is a bit gruesome but feel ppl should be aware that tuberculosis in freerange flocks is a very real and unfortunately common enough occurence:
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/156/tuberculosis
http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/historicpublications/pubs/SC106.pdf
(A historic publication from KS univ from the '30s but with some helpful details not found anymore in the modern publications as this disease is fairly uncommon in modern commercial set-ups)
TUBERCULOSIS. Tuberculosis is generally called going light by the poultryman.It is caused by a microörganism, Mycobacterium tuberculosis,similar to that which is responsible for the same disease in man and cattle. It is not probable that man will contract the disease from fowls but cases are reported where birds have died from the type that affects the human, and it is possible that man may get the disease from birds. It is possible for pigs and calves to get the avian tuberculosis by association with affected birds. Fowls may get the disease from cattle, but the greatest source of infection is from other birds that have the disease. All classes of fowls are susceptible to the infection.
Symptoms.
-The disease runs a chronic course and usually the first indication that it is on the farm is that a bird will be found that is going light. The comb will become pale and when picked up it will be noticed that the bird has very little flesh on its breastbone. (Fig. 11.) The bird will eat well until death and only one or two in the flock may be noticed with the disease at one time, although it is usually widespread in an affected flock. Some birds well advanced in the disease will show lameness.
Post-mortem Findings.
-The surest method of diagnosis is to kill an affected fowl and observe the lesions in the liver, spleen, and intestines. A few will show no lesions at all, but these cases are rare. Lesions are seldom noticed in the lungs. Occasionally the joints are affected, and skin tubercles may be seen. The lesions commonly seen are white to yellow tubercles of various sizes, few to many in number, on the surface of an enlarged liver, and pos- sibly on the surface of an enlarged spleen. These tuberoles may or may not be found along the intestinal tract. (Fig. 12.) When lesions are present in the walls of the intestine they are firm to thetouch, irregular in outline, and yellowish in color. They generally are of cheesy-like consistency and when cut open show a central area of softer material than that which makes up the outer portionof the lesion. Treatment and Prevention.-Treatment of an infected fowl isuseless, and once tuberculosis gets into a flock, destruction of the entire flock is the only sure method of eradication. However, since the disease usually attacks birds over one year of age, a cheaper method is to get rid of all birds of one year of age or over, each year for a number of years, and thus gradually eradicate it from the flock. A third and much better method is to have a competent veterinarian apply the tuberculin test on each bird a t least twice a year and eliminate all reactors. The cost of this method is low when one considers that all well birds can be saved when this testis used as a means of detecting the infected birds. Not only must the infected birds be got rid of, but the premises must be carefully cleaned and disinfected. Especially should allruns under old sheds and barns be closed up so that new birds can not get in these places. The tubercle bacillus will live in dark places under buildings, and in refuse, for long periods of time and if the entire flock is killed new birds should not be brought on the place for a t least six months. During this time the premises should be disinfected at least once a week. Extreme care should be taken to disinfect thoroughly and often in any case. All birds that are killed need not be a total loss, for those showing no lesions are suitable for food if they are thoroughly cooked.
Therefore, if the entire flock is to be killed, the birds may be dressed and those that shown no signs of the disease may be sold to the butcher. All affected fowls should be burned"
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Cetawin
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aaaawww Cyn I am sorry to here you lost her.
I am glad to hear she is no longer suffering though. I cannot imagine how you must feel with the losses of late.
I, like you, would want to see what happened. I love my little SLW something fierce. She rides in the van with me to go to town and goes to school with my DD. They are such darlings.
I am keeping my fingers and toes crossed for Zane.
I, like you, would want to see what happened. I love my little SLW something fierce. She rides in the van with me to go to town and goes to school with my DD. They are such darlings.
I am keeping my fingers and toes crossed for Zane.
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Oh, Cynthia, I cannot tell you how sorry I am over your loss. Even expecting it doesn't ease the pain
So sorry for your loss.
Susan
Susan
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