Zimmerman charged

[redhen]

If what Zimmerman says is true, that the kid attacked him first.. then i dont think he should be convicted at all. WHy should he get convicted for defending himself?
But because of the media hype and the fear of race riots, watch, he will get convicted..

 

[hemet dennis]

I have actually been keeping up with this an watched the hearing this morning.

Up until the actual confrontation, no one had did anything wrong. Mr Zs story is that the kid confronted him, Mr Z reached for his phone an the kid hit him, knocking him to the ground an then the kid got on top of him an started bashing his head in to the sidewalk. Mr Z pulled his gun an the 2 fought for the gun up until the point that Mr Z shot him. If that is what actually happened then Mr Z did nothing legally wrong. Not that that means the kid did anything wrong ether.

There is no question at this point that it ended the way Mr Z said. How the fight started is the key question. The state has to prove to 12 that Mr Z was the aggressor to get a conviction of any crime.

Up until today I believed that if Mr Z is convicted it would be because of that 911 tape. He did nothing wrong in that tape an it has no legal power, nor does a dispatchers recommendations. It is admissible an what it does do is help sell a jury on the idea that Mr Z was the aggressor.

Today, after sitting threw the bond hearing I now believe that if Mr Z is convicted it will be because he failed to lawyer up. He talked enough to give the state a chance to try to say hes story contradicts its self. Weather it does or not, I dont know but the state will say it does.


As for weather he should have been charged? He said he committed a homicide. He clams self defense. If the DA truly believes it was an he has no chance of a conviction then the DA can chose to file no charges. But he has every right to file charges an let a jury decide. My opinion, he should have been charged right off. Not that I think they had a case. I think he will walk. But this was not a "no question" self defense case an the dead person was not committing a crime that caused the incident. Even if the DA did not think he could get a conviction, the kids family deserved there day in court.

You said he should have been charged right off. Even though there is no evidence of a crime ?

 

[thaiturkey]

Isn't it time to let this go and await the Court's decision on what should happen next?

The constant reference to and expression of opinions on race on this thread may be offending some people. It's certainly getting a little tedious and repetitious.

 

[RHRanch]

You said he should have been charged right off. Even though there is no evidence of a crime ?

The cops wanted to charge him when it happened.

 

[RHRanch]

Isn't it time to let this go and await the Court's decision on what should happen next?

The constant reference to and expression of opinions on race on this thread may be offending some people. It's certainly getting a little tedious and repetitious.

X2!!!

 

[Kevin565]

I don't think it's a fair judgment to say all the Black community cares about is the Victimization of fellow blacks. Generalizing a mass group of people like that is not a fair assessment of the situation. Also Zimmerman is biracial. His father is Caucasian while his mother is Peruvian. This is why he was originally believed to be Caucasian. And for the record "Blacks" isn't proper terminology. The politically correct term is African American.

Well the black community cares - they don't care about if its white on black or hispanic. They care about the victimization of blacks (from whichever group: whites, latinos, police, etc) because of racism and that happens every day. I think this case actually shows that the media will go where the story is, and in this case we have a community and nation in uproar over this and the media is sticking with it even though it is a latino perpetrator not a white one.

 

[hemet dennis]

The cops wanted to charge him when it happened.

Then they would have but they had no evidence of a crime. They would have arrested and turned it over to the D.A. for prosecution. Even the lead investigator said he has no idea who started the fight.

 

[hemet dennis]

I don't think it's a fair judgment to say all the Black community cares about is the Victimization of fellow blacks. Generalizing a mass group of people like that is not a fair assessment of the situation. Also Zimmerman is biracial. His father is Caucasian while his mother is Peruvian. This is why he was originally believed to be Caucasian. And for the record "Blacks" isn't proper terminology. The politically correct term is African American.

How about we call them all Americans.

 

[WooingWyandotte]

X2

Isn't it time to let this go and await the Court's decision on what should happen next?

The constant reference to and expression of opinions on race on this thread may be offending some people. It's certainly getting a little tedious and repetitious.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

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Evidence of a crime? I body of a teen an a man saying I shot him does not count? + the 911 tapes implicating him as the aggressor.

Homicide is a crime. Self defense is a valid defense to the crime of homicide but it does not stop if from being a crime. It can be enough to keep you from being charged in some cases but claiming self defense does not mean that you cant or should not be charged with homicide ever.

To get a conviction it (should) takes proof without a reasonable doubt. It does not, nor should it take that to be charged.