Zimmerman charged

[Capvin]

The latest I heard from a very good Source (Donald and last names rhymes with Bump) is that George was an undercover agent for The Donald and was the chief investigator looking for the evidence to show that Obama was either an alien or from Kenya. By a stroke of luck George had the real evidenc that was supplied to him by Sheriff Arizona and was then in fear for his life. He saw Trayvon and he thought it was Obama who had come to silence him so, in great fear for his life, he shot him thinking that with the evidence that George had about the conspiracy he would be hailed as a hero for the killing. He has told this story to his lawyers who wanted him to plead insanity but he has changed lawyers and now he will be represented by Orly Taitz. All of this is true and factual. Just look it up at www.ruthatdumb.com

 

[rufus]

It was a sad and tragic incident. Even worse, some people manipulated news reports and sought to exploit the issue for political purposes. How far can they go to prostitute the truth?

What kind or a world are these people creating?

Rufus

 

[Matthew3590]

People of other races than white can be racist. Him being latino does not automatically make it a race neutral incident.

The only time the media cares about a race incident is if it is white on black.

 

[NoWomanNocry]

First, I would like to offer my condolences to the Parents of the young boy that was killed. It is an unfortunate event but it lends to many issues present in our complex and highly differentiated society. I live in NJ and racism is ubiquitous; and discrimination present everywhere from localities to the economy and politics, private and public job markets as well as in education. In some of or our cities; Newark and a few others there is a problem of violence between Hispanics and Blacks. It is in the news everyday. No one is talking about it, but Hispanics and blacks have feuded for as long as I can remember. Heck my wife's nephew is Puerto Rican and Black. He was attacked by blacks because he looked more like a Hispanic. However quite simply even within the same culture there is a high degree of discrimination. Lighter colored folk will discriminate against darker colored folk and vice versa. Indians have a class system solely based on this and it is readily apparent in places like Columbia, Chile, Ecuador etc. No one is talking about that.
Second, it brings to question the big debate of large government. You ask, how so? Well we have a exceptional volunteer fire dept. but we also have a ridiculously large police force. The state pension fund is unfunded by almost 100 billion dollars. Why do we have so many police? I am all for smaller govt. and less taxes. It is hard enough to trust the police to do the right thing from what I read and see in the news All The Time. Zimmerman is and idiot and that is a Pandora's Box. I was strongly thinking that we should reduce the salaries and benefits of govt. workers and replace them with neighborhood watches. Now that has to be revisited. I too am a dark skinned minority and I don't know why but whenever I see the news it is always someone in a hoodee robbing and shooting and killing others. This is a bigger problem, but they should have just arrested the dude and charge him and this would not be an issue. The other stuff we just have to learn from all of this and hope things get better. It starts at home.

 

[hemet dennis]

First, I would like to offer my condolences to the Parents of the young boy that was killed. It is an unfortunate event but it lends to many issues present in our complex and highly differentiated society. I live in NJ and racism is ubiquitous; and discrimination present everywhere from localities to the economy and politics, private and public job markets as well as in education. In some of or our cities; Newark and a few others there is a problem of violence between Hispanics and Blacks. It is in the news everyday. No one is talking about it, but Hispanics and blacks have feuded for as long as I can remember. Heck my wife's nephew is Puerto Rican and Black. He was attacked by blacks because he looked more like a Hispanic. However quite simply even within the same culture there is a high degree of discrimination. Lighter colored folk will discriminate against darker colored folk and vice versa. Indians have a class system solely based on this and it is readily apparent in places like Columbia, Chile, Ecuador etc. No one is talking about that.
Second, it brings to question the big debate of large government. You ask, how so? Well we have a exceptional volunteer fire dept. but we also have a ridiculously large police force. The state pension fund is unfunded by almost 100 billion dollars. Why do we have so many police? I am all for smaller govt. and less taxes. It is hard enough to trust the police to do the right thing from what I read and see in the news All The Time. Zimmerman is and idiot and that is a Pandora's Box. I was strongly thinking that we should reduce the salaries and benefits of govt. workers and replace them with neighborhood watches. Now that has to be revisited. I too am a dark skinned minority and I don't know why but whenever I see the news it is always someone in a hoodee robbing and shooting and killing others. This is a bigger problem, but they should have just arrested the dude and charge him and this would not be an issue. The other stuff we just have to learn from all of this and hope things get better. It starts at home.

Why should color come in to if he's innocent or guilty ? Should it not just be the facts and the law ?
The facts are that Zimmerman was following the kid till the police got there. The dispatcher told him they didn't need him to do that. Zimmerman was frustrated that the people doing robberies in his neighborhood would always get away before the police arrived so he followed. Now it's legal to follow anyone you feel like following so he did not break any law. Now at some point there was a confrontation, and from eyewitness accounts a fight. So who started the fight ? Zimmerman said the kid punched him knocked him down and was banging his head on the ground. Now the kids story is, well we will never know what his story is.
Some have said "they should have just arrested the dude and charge him" well what should they have charged him with ? Last I heard there was suppose to be some evidence of wrong doing to get arrested.

 

[RHRanch]

The only time the media cares about a race incident is if it is white on black.

Well the black community cares - they don't care about if its white on black or hispanic. They care about the victimization of blacks (from whichever group: whites, latinos, police, etc) because of racism and that happens every day. I think this case actually shows that the media will go where the story is, and in this case we have a community and nation in uproar over this and the media is sticking with it even though it is a latino perpetrator not a white one.

 

[Matthew3590]

Well the black community cares - they don't care about if its white on black or hispanic. They care about the victimization of blacks (from whichever group: whites, latinos, police, etc) because of racism and that happens every day. I think this case actually shows that the media will go where the story is, and in this case we have a community and nation in uproar over this and the media is sticking with it even though it is a latino perpetrator not a white one.

Nothing I have seen from the black community shows they know he is latino. They think he is white.

 

[chickened]

I seen a picture of the back of Zimmermans head and some expert testified it was from possible concrete contact.

One news station manipulated the 911 tape, (CBS ?)

Why did the president weigh in on this when he won't answer other questions?

Why did Martin's parents not know where their son was until the cops showed up to tell them he was dead? The next morning I think.

How will the court interpret "Stand Your Ground Law?"

I see this case as another media circus.

 

[chickened]

Well the black community cares - they don't care about if its white on black or hispanic. They care about the victimization of blacks (from whichever group: whites, latinos, police, etc) because of racism and that happens every day. I think this case actually shows that the media will go where the story is, and in this case we have a community and nation in uproar over this and the media is sticking with it even though it is a latino perpetrator not a white one.

Except black on black which is actually the highest rate. Or it was.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

I have actually been keeping up with this an watched the hearing this morning.

Up until the actual confrontation, no one had did anything wrong. Mr Zs story is that the kid confronted him, Mr Z reached for his phone an the kid hit him, knocking him to the ground an then the kid got on top of him an started bashing his head in to the sidewalk. Mr Z pulled his gun an the 2 fought for the gun up until the point that Mr Z shot him. If that is what actually happened then Mr Z did nothing legally wrong. Not that that means the kid did anything wrong ether.

There is no question at this point that it ended the way Mr Z said. How the fight started is the key question. The state has to prove to 12 that Mr Z was the aggressor to get a conviction of any crime.

Up until today I believed that if Mr Z is convicted it would be because of that 911 tape. He did nothing wrong in that tape an it has no legal power, nor does a dispatchers recommendations. It is admissible an what it does do is help sell a jury on the idea that Mr Z was the aggressor.

Today, after sitting threw the bond hearing I now believe that if Mr Z is convicted it will be because he failed to lawyer up. He talked enough to give the state a chance to try to say hes story contradicts its self. Weather it does or not, I dont know but the state will say it does.


As for weather he should have been charged? He said he committed a homicide. He clams self defense. If the DA truly believes it was an he has no chance of a conviction then the DA can chose to file no charges. But he has every right to file charges an let a jury decide. My opinion, he should have been charged right off. Not that I think they had a case. I think he will walk. But this was not a "no question" self defense case an the dead person was not committing a crime that caused the incident. Even if the DA did not think he could get a conviction, the kids family deserved there day in court.