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  1. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    Hey, you're the one that said;
  2. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    Yeah, but why are the ladies being punished?
  3. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    Yes please, sign me up. I don't care if it's not even a variety, as long as it's at least part blue!
  4. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    I'm glad it's good stress, but I totally understand that good stress is still stress!! One foot in front of the other will get you down the road! Happy juggling!
  5. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    Don't worry Moony, I'll make any other horse replies in the other thread. Have you ever seen or heard of a pied chicken?
  6. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    Not so much. I study it to this day, as I actively breed. My Connemara stallion (co-owned with Sharon Michael), Kaleidoscope's O'Really, has a white spotting gene. Markings of any kind in Connemaras are very rare, so the star and socks he throws are borderline scandalous. My breeding partner...
  7. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    Frame/overo = semantics. You don't get it with the tobiano or sabino genes, and, as it can be so minimally expressed as to be virtually invisible (as any pinto expression) for breeding and functional purposes, it's best to assume overo=frame. It's almost always a lethal. Very, very rarely, a...
  8. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    Dominant white is a spotting gene that basically causes the horse to have one, all-encompassing spot. A white spot that takes up the whole horse. Genetically, it's taking a colored horse and hosing it down with white paint - the underlying color is still there, you just can't see it, except...
  9. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    Cool, lesson time!! Geek out with me! If you define an white as zero pigmentation, then dominant whites are also white, as are the palest cremellos. Because OLWS foals are not genetically white, only visually white. I am absolutely not saying OLWS foals are albino, nothing is further from the...
  10. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    Ok, define white. I said albino, because it's basically the consensus that in mammals, albino is defined as genetic white, it is also defined as white hair, pink skin and non-pigmented eyes (which do not always appear pink/red) Me too. Professionally since 1993 when I begin my degree. I...
  11. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    I'm going to have to disagree. I'm not saying that the base color and modifier isn't the most common beastie mistaken for white, I've a cremello and 2 perlinos in my pasture right now. I am saying that while it's a theory that there is no albino in horses, it is a baseless theory. All we...
  12. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    Ok, maybe I'm just that kinda poor, but I pay $4 for a live, healthy, sexed pullet chick. I think anyone paying $4 for a shipped - therefore possibly broken or scrambled - egg, plus shipping, which makes it more like $6 each, is someone coming off crack or out of Vegas and looking for a...
  13. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    Dominant white can have plenty of speckling/leakage, that and splash are as close as chickens come to pied, so I'm going to guess dominant white over cuckoo.
  14. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    She's a (much maligned) Buff Cornish. I have a trio. Not show quality, but I think there's all of one person breeding show quality Buff Cornish in the US. I love them, they're unstoppable. And that little hen is made of lead. She weighs about 9 pounds but doesn't look much bigger than my...
  15. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    Harsh!! Say it to her face. IRL. My money's on her.
  16. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    @The Moonshiner , I'm so sorry you lost birds. I do not miss southern winters at all. Having lived in AR for a few years, after my first winter I was like "Oooohhh!!!! THIS is why southerners are so afraid of winter!" Give me my feet of snow over those nasty temp swings, ice and mud any day. It...
  17. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    Yes, it's because it's not it's own color, it's just black with a modifier. Which is why, if you know your lines of black, it is perfectly acceptable to breed black to splash for 100%blue. The only thing the blue does is lighten the black enough for you to see the underlying patterns that the...
  18. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    Ok, Blue is basic, Mendelian square genetics. It is a simple dilute gene. No copies of the dilution is black One copy is blue Two copies is splash. So, if we use B to represent Blue and b to represent black, all Blue birds are Bb = the Blue modifier on a black bird. So when we breed 2 together...
  19. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    I did say I had an unfair advantage! But if it helps, I need pics like that to keep me strong through the winter - it's 13 degrees here right now .... there's a price for everything
  20. RiverOtter

    The Moonshiner's Leghorns

    While that is a gorgeous view, I don't think it's the one the Moonshiner is looking for. ;) And if we're doing landscapes, I think I have an unfair advantage...
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