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  1. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    His eyes look reddish bay to me. What is his age here? (His exact age makes all the difference in the world when assessing.) How much he weigh (and give age at time weight taken)?
  2. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    That is a Buckeye cockerel yes. His comb is appropriate size. Incidentally, a female chicken is a pullet if under one year of age and a hen if over one year. A male chicken is a cockerel if under one year of age and a Cock or a Rooster if over one year of age. The reason I am pointing this out...
  3. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    I did not say "never" select for color on females. I said: "With females, select for body type first, never color." (emphasis added). I did not say color was not important. (Where is that?) No, I often see white tips on juvenile feathers, especially tips of wings; it is not uncommon at all. The...
  4. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    What age are the pullets that have the white tips? If only on juvenile feathers, then no problem. With females, select for body type first, never color.
  5. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    Quote: Went to Atlanta and saw Bob yesterday and he looked rough. Bob had a rod put in on one leg where the femur was broken and the other leg was broke (a compound fracture) between the knee and ankle -- in that leg, they put in a plate. Bob wanted to talk birds and I thought it took...
  6. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    Quote: Not true.
  7. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    Quote: All of the above is strictly your opinion. Where is your proof? I would agree with your opinion that I used a bad choice of word with "keeper," sorry about that. Mr. Brown is in every sense of the word, a true breeder. Respectfully, however, I do not agree with some of his opinions of...
  8. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    Quote: We have one of those Grand Poos too, lol. I emailed Laura H & asked her, and she corrected me that her understanding was Blockberger & Mongold only recreated the Bantams too. She has Bantams and had them in the past & knows a good deal about them.
  9. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    Most people recount things without firsthand information. I reported my first source. As most of you would, I consider Matt Lahmon to be a good source of information. As you can see from his post, he remembered things differently. I did not talk to Mr. Mongold, but a reliable person who knew...
  10. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    Quote: Yes. I had tried previously emailing him but never got a response (folks' emails change though).
  11. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    A very reliable source who knows Mr. Mongold called him at my request and asked him about his Buckeyes in the 1970s. Mr. Mongold said that he and Mr. Blockberger had both Bantams and Large Fowl Buckeyes. However, they only re-created the Bantam Buckeye and that took about 10 years to get good...
  12. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    Quote: My first male I got from Urch was a "manfighter." Since he was all I had, I bred him. A couple of years later (2008), I had another real bad manfighter & I culled him (and of course, he looked great). Since then, I have not had one. My current Buckeye males are very docile. When I got...
  13. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    Quote: bluface: Again, where is the WRITTEN records to support this statement? It is a clear matter of opinion unless documentation is supplied. Again, you are right but written records not necessary when I have Mr. Urch telling me. This isn't real property where the Statute of Frauds apply...
  14. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    Quote: I don't mean it as an accusation (what a bad choice of word). I am just reporting what some reputable source told. It is good question, & I agree with you, Joe. I looked where I first heard it, and it was here: http://showbirdbid.proboards.com/thread/1654 He's probably wrong as...
  15. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    Mr. Blockberger and Mr. Mongold recreated both Bantam and LF Buckeyes. I understand their Buckeyes were very good specimens of the breed, did well at the shows and a lot of today's lines go back to their recreation.
  16. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    I think I read a quote that Urch had Buckeyes since 1959 and he was misquoted as Urch's Buckeyes go back to 1957 (he said this himself) in a note -- this was years before I was even born . . .
  17. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    Quote: Mr. Urch just obtained stock from breeders he had sold stock to previously so he did not cross lines. It was not in 2008 but 2009. Urch's strain still remains the most pure in terms of going back to the originator. As far as the cockerel he got from me, it was not new blood but from my...
  18. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    Quote: I do not agree. In truth, all Buckeye strains have not descended from Mrs. Nettie Metcalf. Duane Urch's strain DID descend from Mrs. Metcalf & can be traced back to the origin. Mr. Urch has had Buckeyes since 1959 and never mixed / graded in any other breed to his strain. Urch's strain...
  19. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    I do agree with you on size. From my own experience, I must disagree on different "lines" when starting out. We are talking about starting out with Buckeyes. Your principle may be true for most breeds; however, most Buckeyes originated from a few sources (strains) so it is not such a mix to...
  20. cgmccary

    The Buckeye Thread

    Yes, I agree with you. I am speaking to long term breeding strategy. In the beginning, the beginner is acquiring stock, and you may want to get stock from more than one source. You are hatching and seeing what you've got, what develops. If you have good results, then you can go for some years...
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