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  1. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    They are all from the same hatch (end of April). I don't have weights on any of them yet. The cockerel was best of breed and the pullet got reserve, the bottom pic is a rose comb pullet.
  2. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    I know my birds are considered 'not cream' by most legbar breeders but figured I'd share the pics here for more thoughts on type. And a quick summary on them- this week was our fair/APA show, I took a copy of the proposed standard for the judge, she studied it for a while before judging and said...
  3. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    I showed my original birds last year and showed a couple at our fair this yeat. Next year, I plan to show some legbars, I figure I'll show single & rose combed birds in both cream & light brown depending on what has better type and feather
  4. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    That is what I feared when people started talking about breeding them to a standard, is that we would lose the autosexing traits. I think it could happen pretty easy- people start wanting more barring on the pullets or less on the cockerels- there are a number of ways that fad breeding could...
  5. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Hate to change the subject again but because of how my mind works, I tend to think on things too much. A while back when we were discussing tail angles, someone mentioned that the tail angle is based off of the top line of the back or something along those lines which caused some people to think...
  6. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    At the show I was at this weekend, they told people to lock cages just in case since they have had issues with folks stealing birds during the show. That is why I try not to take breeder birds. I tried to snag some pics of the show type leghorns that had better body at the show to use as...
  7. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    I'll be checking in over the weekend, I will be showing on the coast this weekend. The legbars will be staying home since they ruined their feathers this week :(
  8. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    I don't have my standard handy but just some things that come to mind that need to be fixed to make him look more like a leghorn. Please point out my errors. Possible thumb prints in the comb Cupped wattles Needs a more rounded breast Wings are low Back looks a smidge short but it could be...
  9. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    To me, I noticed that the wings looked like a game bantams but that has to do with the overall stance, I figured it was because of the other rooster next to him. From what I have read on feather width is that most warm climate birds (leghorns, minorcas, oriental games) should have thinner...
  10. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Here are a couple pics of one of the pullets. Ignore the color, but how is her type, according to the proposed standard?
  11. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    All of my birds get basic chicken feed, I think it is just selective breeding. So many people think bigger is better and it isn't always the case
  12. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    There is a big difference but as we discussed on the Sumatra thread, show birds tend to weigh much more than other birds. I have a brown leghorn hen from show lines and all the judges love her but she is just over 6 lbs (which should technically DQ her based on the 20% weight rule). Which is...
  13. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Hate to be "that guy" but this was one of those good self confidence moments for me. Some of you may remember when I had mentioned way back that I envisioned a show type leghorn body with the crest and color. A show type leghorn is generally more heavy and has a fuller body. When I had mentioned...
  14. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Well if you want to use that argument, what about dark cornish and dark brahmas, silver pencilled hamburgs and silver pencilled rocks?
  15. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    So, for the colored birds, do people want to call them gold or light brown? I figure this winter when I have extra time, I want to start writing up a proposed color standard for the colored birds. Type would be that of the cream legbars but they will be colorful
  16. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Also, was going to mention since you brought up Jean Robocker and Dutch bantams that she has some of the citroen dutch. I remember the first time I saw one of her citroen/lemon mille fluer Dutch bantams in person, it was very stunning. Her and I have met a few times at shows, she has a wealth of...
  17. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    That is why I made some of the crosses that I made. I plan to try to make some cream light brown birds just to see what they look like in largefowl. The birds I made without barring showed melanizers that made them look odd. Most of the non-barred birds had black crests, black in the breasts...
  18. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    I am the same way. Like tonight as I was driving home, I had been thinking about a breeding project absent mindedly for the last week or so and not putting thought into it. Well, on my way home I had the radio off and it finally came to me on how I could do it so I had to pull over, write it...
  19. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Just joined the facebook group today, lots of info there
  20. flyingmonkeypoop

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    We do this with most of our birds. Even with the larger flocks like the sumatras, we still know at least which rooster it is from. The hens are grouped in family groups with different roosters which makes it much easier. With other projects, I do them in such small numbers that I know who the...
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