100 Broilers and Fermented Feed Project

[Beekissed]

I love your rant. I'm in the same camp.

As far as orange yolks, perhaps fodder in the dead of winter.

A high concentration of corn in the feed will give lovely orange yolks.

 

[Arielle]

Quote: I've had the same experience. So I buy Braggs whenever possible-- the store is far away-- and worth the extra cost IMO. Less storage space required.

I did try growing my own vinegars using fruit juice-- a very slow process. Just easier to buy Braggs and then do FF to kept he culture going.

 

[LindaB220]

Got a question, ladies. I bought my Braggs about 10 mo ago. Got a lot left. Is it still good? Stuff still floating around but it looks a little darker. Time to replace?

 

[Beekissed]

Got a question, ladies. I bought my Braggs about 10 mo ago. Got a lot left. Is it still good? Stuff still floating around but it looks a little darker. Time to replace?

Nope...it never goes bad.

At least...I've never seen vinegar go bad no matter how many years I keep it.

 

[aoxa]

Sorry if it sounded like I meant you had mold growing, I sure didn't meant that. More meant to say that I can't catch yeast here, so I add the ACV for a good start.

You are wondering if it is a yeast effect or a ACV effect--- my impression was that ACV had more orgainisms than yeast. Now I"m not so sure. I"m recall the Dr Atkins mentioned that for those iwth yeast allergies to stay clear of vinegars . .

Now I am wondering if my info is incorrect-- does vinegar also contain the same bacteria as typically found in good yougurts with 5-6 strains of "good " bacteria like Lactobacillus, Bifidobacterium and the streptococus strains in my powdered supplements???

I believe ACV ferments a different way than wild yeasts.. Honestly, I was using it for a long time, but just figured I'd try it without the additional step and found I had the same effect.

I find it interesting that in all the years of nutrition and livestock management, only the ruminants were designated as fermentators. And that is why when I read Atkins over 10years ago I didn't "get" what he was saying-- our guts even in simple monogastrics (or chickens) are not so simiple. Birds raised in barn, given processed feed, and butchered at 8 weekss or put in layer cages never experience the natural food nature intended. ANd the resultis lack of a healthy gut and a lowered state of health. (I'm learning Bee!! I am!!) THe microbes that live in our guts must be like those in the runinants that produce a vast number of vitamins that I expect we can readily absorb (compared to vit pills) and the gut lining would be healthier, and in turn our immune is healthier when we are not in a chronic state of inflammation. Most Americans now live in a chronic state oinflammation, from our guts to our joints, to our artieries. ANd it all starts with the foods we eat.

I make huge strides when I switch to clean meats and veg, and eggs, and only a few high carb starcg vegies-- but all whole foods. Very little processed food. Better sleeping, better thnking, ( cold hands make key stroke difficutl! lol) my blood numbers are GREAT (my HDL moderate) and LDLs very low-- and overall at 188 for cholesterol-- I eat a high portion of meats and fats and eggs along with 2-3 salads a day again. Me bad for a while and wnet back to SAD way of eating, and oops all the health issues started again.

My next move is that withour own eggs and chicken meat, the food is the next level of healthy. Some organic feed in their diet and more grasses.

THis question as been nagging at me-----

Who gets lovely orange yolks with just FF and no access to greens????

Nope.. No orange yolks here Sad...

I'm so aching for summer again... I know you can add things to darken the yolks. Thinking about doing just that... Eggs are still delicious, but not as visually appealing as they were when they could forage.

What can they forage for now? Snow.. That's about the extent of their free ranging lately lol

 

[Beekissed]

I believe ACV ferments a different way than wild yeasts.. Honestly, I was using it for a long time, but just figured I'd try it without the additional step and found I had the same effect.



Nope.. No orange yolks here Sad...

I'm so aching for summer again... I know you can add things to darken the yolks. Thinking about doing just that... Eggs are still delicious, but not as visually appealing as they were when they could forage.

What can they forage for now? Snow.. That's about the extent of their free ranging lately lol

Mine are still very dark but my layer mash has a very high corn content to it...adding a little corn to your feed will help you with your yolk colors. Mine are also taking every opportunity to forage...wherever they can...

 

[Arielle]

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and very cute fluffy butts!!

 

[Beekissed]

How do you like the tents on those White Rocks? Those are the pullets I got from Kathyinmo.

 

[Arielle]

Kathy has done a remarkable job with the dels!!

ANd you!! THe girls are so white!!

 

[Beekissed]

Those birds are just beautiful, with incredible feather quality and conformation. I just love to see them sailing across the lawn like stately ships. That's one reason I love this breed..they stay so clean and beautiful in all weathers. Even when they get dirty they somehow get clean in short order..don't know how.