$138,000.00 Ladies! $138,000.00!!!!

I think we should only agree to vote for the candidate who finds a way to pay us what we're worth.

Shew! We could pay off the mortgage in a year!

I am on husband 2.0. Husband 1.0 was a young mistake.
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Husband 2.0 doesn't do *anything* IN the house in the way of housekeeping. I've jokingly told him his Indian name would be "Doesn't Close Drawers", LOL. But, he keeps the grass mowed and loves my chickens and is a good Dad, so I try not to complain TOO much.

But seriously, why can't he just push the drawer closed after he gets a clean pair of socks and underwear?
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I just love anti-male threads like these; it does so much for the ego of the males out there. It's so helpful for young men trying to find their way.

If you want to blame anybody for the way men are, blame their parents. And if we use the methodogy of this thread (mom is the bomb and dad sucks) then it's moms fault men are like they are.

So keep these things in mind when you make posts like this because they do offend those of us out here who while not perfect, try our hardes to be good loving husbands and fathers.

Yes I do dishes, laundry, vaccuum, change diapers, feed the kids, cook, clean the litter box, mind all the animals, play with the kids and am the sole income of our household.

So, if you got something to complain about as to the man you married, I have one message..

It's your own dang fault for marrying the guy, so either accept the mess you've gotten yourself in to, or STHU.

Disrespectfully yours,

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What an interesting thread! I love discussing stuff like this and often do so with other couples, siblings, etc. The topics of "role", "responsibilities" and "division of labor" are very often HUGE points of contention in relationships. When my brother and I were discussing this topic last (he's been married about 10 years longer than me) we agreed that it's just almost impossible to pin down "equality" between what a "working out of the home" man does and a "working in the home" woman does. This is probably why there are so many "discussions" between husbands and wives about this.

Well I've got a question for all the stay at home moms:

I'm wondering if y'all have discussed and planned from the time when the kids are "out of the house" (i.e. in high school, college, moved out) to the time that your husbands are retired. The question: During these years that what will you, the stay at home moms be doing?

Some moms want to remain at home and start picking up hobbies, volunteer time, etc. Others start home businesses, and others take up part or full time jobs.

I ask because I was in the middle of an interesting (and awkward) conversation between a couple who had been married for 20 years. Basically the couple's 2 kids were jr / sr in high school and they were discussing what they were going to do when the kids were out of the house. Why was it awkward? Well, the husband expected that his wife was going to get a full time job once the kids were in college. His mouth almost hit the floor when his wife mentioned she had no such plan.
 
I fully plan on going back to work full time. I love the stay at home mom stuff, but I wouldn't be able to keep myself occupied without the kids here.

I'm an absolute neat freak, and my husband has joked that if I remained at home after the kids were both in school full time, he'd come home to find me disinfecting the ceiling or something. There's only so much housework a person can do.

I have maintained my nursing degree during my time off as a mom, and will go right back into the nursing field. I miss it. My minors are political science and psychology, and neither pays much around these parts.

I'm actually considering going for a fourth minor, LOL, in social work, and if I can manage it, I'll have that in the next three years, going part-time.

I won't wait until they graduate. Sheesh. I'm just waiting on my boy to go to kindergarten in three years.

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I have nothing but high praise for Husband 2.0, he is a vast improvement over Husband 000000001.0. Who I was married to for 22 years, raising two sons (well, actually, three, counting him)
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Husband 2.0 was a bachelor for 44 years. He cooks, cleans, does laundry, works outdoors on whatever needs doing, works darned hard at his day job, and lets me go off into my midlife crisis career change with full support - how could I ask for anything else? I can't. I met him too late to have any kids with him (he has none). We have cats
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Oh yea, and chickens!
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No anti-male bashing here for Husband 2.0, he's wonderful. The first one, though, is worth every bit of bashing you can imagine.
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Wow. Okay.

Let me say this: It is my husband's mother's fault he is the way he is. When I met him, he was 23, and his mother did everything for him, down to his laundry, cooking his meal, and packing his lunch for work.

But, the father let it happen, so the blame is shared.

I love my husband dearly. My first husband was an abuser, and I was young. I can bash him, because I can tell you, he sure as heck bashed me every chance he got.

...1 Son, 1 Daughter-on-the-way, 2 Beagles, 7 Rex Rabbits, 41 Chickens, ?? fish, one very forgiving wife.

No disrespect meant here...but...
If you're as good as husband and father as you claim to be, what does your wife have to forgive?

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Are you available? And willing to move to Ohio any time soon???? Just kidding
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I heard the greatest phrase last week. Don't know why I hadn't heard it before, but someone was talking to a group of us saying whether we were "working moms" or "WORK AT HOME MOMS". I love it.

I have a 2 1/2 yo and a 1 yo. I'm starting school later in the month and they just started daycare last week because of some health problems I've been having, but until last week I was at home with them 24/7. That's some massive work, let me tell you!

I know schools and daycares set things up differently so by the nature of the situation they're in it's easier for them to watch more children at a time, but they still don't get paid nearly enough for what they do.

And if we look at the fact that they're responsible for taking care of and teaching our hearts and our future . . .

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Wow! This has been such an interesting thread ... multiple points of view, praises of hubbies, slings and arrows at hubbies, hubbies slinging back.... LOL! I do think it has been a chance to vent and a chance for some lighthearted digs at each gender, and I'm glad folks with the upgraded version of hubby 1.0 + have found their happiness. I am blessed to be with hubby 1.0; he is with wife 4.0. I am blessed because he had wives 1.0, 2.0, and 3.0 to gain a vast amount of experience and knowledge, and this is definitely in my favor!
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I did meet and have extensive dealings with wife 2.0 (nut job of the highest order) and can understand why some of their issues took place. If we all remember what drew us together in the first place, and that none of us is perfect (sorry to burst your bubble, Joe D.!!), and remember that marriage is not 50-50, it is 100%-100% -- you've got to give it all you've got; then we'll have a shot at real joy and contentment, not just momentary fleeting happiness. Yes, there are way too many spouses (both he and she) out there who don't give their spouse enough support , and that's sad. There ARE lots of spouses out there who don't see housework as "women's work" and are willing to share equally (or at least partially!) in work that needs to be done for the sake of the family & home. For those of us blessed with such a spouse, let's remember to give thanks, and to pray for God's grace, help, and encouragement for those who are not blessed in this manner. Husband 1.0 and I have been married 30 yrs., 11 mos. (31 years Sept. 30)
 
"What are you going to do once the kids are out of the house?" is an interesting question!
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I think its an individual path. With my daughter being a teen I am going back to school by next year(possibly before) to be a veterinary technician.
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Yes, yes, and yes, to most of what she said. One thing, too, that a lot of people seem to forget is NO marriage can be 50/50 or 100/100 every single day. There will be day it goes 90/10 or 20/80 or any ridiculous combination thereof. I have HORRIBLE PMS....try something awful to keep it under control but there are days I am an awful person....I don't even like me. Can't imagine how hubby puts up with me. There are days he is stressed and snaps at me for nothing. Same thing. It is all about give and take.....a marriage is not worth it unless both parties are getting something in return but that doesn't mean every day will be equal. I am certain the vast majority of the women on this thread who are being accused of "male bashing" would not trade their husband for the world....some might, but everyone needs to vent sometimes and if they really hated them, open forum would probably not be where they would choose to admit it.
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