Not true, no one will know when it will.
2012??????
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It was the end of the cycle just like our calander ends every dec 31st. It pretty much restarts. I just find it funny cuz dec 21 2012 is my sons 7th bday. But we are not preparing for the end. I just rather be self reliant to save $ with the economy going down the drain.
I agree with a previous post that there are people of certain belief systems who purport the end is near because of all the natural disasters that are occurring. Um, REALLY?
Here's a clue for ya: The planet has been in a constant state of flux since it was first formed, and it is continuing to naturally evolve. Tsunamis and earthquakes and natural disasters have occurred repeatedly for millions of years, but we PERCEIVE them as being more frequent now because about 100-200 years ago, we actually started keeping records of them. Now we have a world-wide media, and we know about disasters around the world within minutes of them occurring.
We also may be having more frequent natural disasters because of the damage done to the planet by human beings. There's just too many of us. IF there is an increased frequency in natural disasters (and I say "if" because we don't really know if it's increased), it may have to do with things like holes in the atmosphere, billions of tons of garbage and waste being dumped into the oceans and lands, and other damage humans have done.
Do we have a way of knowing how many earthquakes occurred on the U.S. West Coast in the 1400s? 1200s? 800s? BC? We know the recent Japan quake was huge, had several aftershocks, and did a LOT of damage. There were no large buildings to shake a thousand years ago, so we have no idea what kind of earthquakes that country/region has actually experienced over the last few thousand years. Do we know for SURE this is the first time Japan's experienced a quake of this magnitude?
No, we don't. They weren't real big on seismology back in the day, now, were they? We perceive an increased frequency of natural disasters, but we do not know for sure that it's an increased frequency because there are no records of what happened 500, 1000, 2000 years ago. We have news agencies that reported to us that there have been some 270+ tornadoes in the last month, but HOW do we know that's the first time this has happened? They've destroyed homes and did millions of dollars in damage to businesses, but who's to say those tornadoes didn't whip through the plains 600 or 700 years ago, as well, and that this is part of the natural cycle? There were no large cities or trailer parks to be destroyed hundreds of years ago, so we don't know WHAT happened.
To rush to judgment based on weather patterns and natural disasters is ignorant, irresponsible, and requires no actual in-depth thought on the matter. Common sense tells us we don't know what kind of natural disasters occurred before history was recorded and that we have no idea whether or not the natural disasters being experienced are just a repeat of a hundreds-years-old cycle.
I agree that there are those so anxious for the "end of the world", they will likely bring it about via means of wars and other tools of political machination. Makes me want to shake some of these people and tell them to wake up and smell the coffee and stop being ignorant.
Here's a clue for ya: The planet has been in a constant state of flux since it was first formed, and it is continuing to naturally evolve. Tsunamis and earthquakes and natural disasters have occurred repeatedly for millions of years, but we PERCEIVE them as being more frequent now because about 100-200 years ago, we actually started keeping records of them. Now we have a world-wide media, and we know about disasters around the world within minutes of them occurring.
We also may be having more frequent natural disasters because of the damage done to the planet by human beings. There's just too many of us. IF there is an increased frequency in natural disasters (and I say "if" because we don't really know if it's increased), it may have to do with things like holes in the atmosphere, billions of tons of garbage and waste being dumped into the oceans and lands, and other damage humans have done.
Do we have a way of knowing how many earthquakes occurred on the U.S. West Coast in the 1400s? 1200s? 800s? BC? We know the recent Japan quake was huge, had several aftershocks, and did a LOT of damage. There were no large buildings to shake a thousand years ago, so we have no idea what kind of earthquakes that country/region has actually experienced over the last few thousand years. Do we know for SURE this is the first time Japan's experienced a quake of this magnitude?
No, we don't. They weren't real big on seismology back in the day, now, were they? We perceive an increased frequency of natural disasters, but we do not know for sure that it's an increased frequency because there are no records of what happened 500, 1000, 2000 years ago. We have news agencies that reported to us that there have been some 270+ tornadoes in the last month, but HOW do we know that's the first time this has happened? They've destroyed homes and did millions of dollars in damage to businesses, but who's to say those tornadoes didn't whip through the plains 600 or 700 years ago, as well, and that this is part of the natural cycle? There were no large cities or trailer parks to be destroyed hundreds of years ago, so we don't know WHAT happened.
To rush to judgment based on weather patterns and natural disasters is ignorant, irresponsible, and requires no actual in-depth thought on the matter. Common sense tells us we don't know what kind of natural disasters occurred before history was recorded and that we have no idea whether or not the natural disasters being experienced are just a repeat of a hundreds-years-old cycle.
I agree that there are those so anxious for the "end of the world", they will likely bring it about via means of wars and other tools of political machination. Makes me want to shake some of these people and tell them to wake up and smell the coffee and stop being ignorant.
Growing up on the powwow trail I have met people from the tribes that fracture doff of the Mayan people and were very knowledgeable of their culture's history.
Here is how it was explained to me.
the calender goes in cycles of thirteen. 13 is a sacred number. 2012 marks the change of the 14th calender so they wills tart the calender over. IT is a time of celebration, and change. Some believe it is when a god will descend and bring great change during this time to mark the1th calender change, but there is no end of the wold.
it is largely symbolic and possibly a time of change. That's it. no end of the world, no great profound reason. just a starting over of the calender cycle marked with celebration.
The people I spoke with found it confusing, fascinating, and sometimes either annoying or funny , that the "white people" are so obsessed with their calender and the end of the world.
Here is how it was explained to me.
the calender goes in cycles of thirteen. 13 is a sacred number. 2012 marks the change of the 14th calender so they wills tart the calender over. IT is a time of celebration, and change. Some believe it is when a god will descend and bring great change during this time to mark the1th calender change, but there is no end of the wold.
it is largely symbolic and possibly a time of change. That's it. no end of the world, no great profound reason. just a starting over of the calender cycle marked with celebration.
The people I spoke with found it confusing, fascinating, and sometimes either annoying or funny , that the "white people" are so obsessed with their calender and the end of the world.
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The one thing with the natural disasters being worse is that alot of scientists think we are long overdue for some truely horrifing stuff. Supervolcanoes super tsunamies ect that would be worse then anything we have yet seen. Of course those who believe in 2012 think it will happen then.
Do those who believe in 2012 laugh when they purchase something with no payments till 2013?
Do those who believe in 2012 laugh when they purchase something with no payments till 2013?
I still have my Y2K stock pile so I'm good.
Personally, 2012 Will happen, It will come through like any other year then on to 2013 we go, The only reason to belive in 2012 in because of the 'Chinese Calander', Many belive in 2012, Many dont belive in 2012, But Personally i Do Belive 2012 will come and pass by, Yes, we may have out Tsunami's Earthquaks Tornadoes and Hurricains, But i belive we will stay on Planet Earth until God wants us to come home
-Nikky
ETA- And if the world is gonna end in 2012, Ive wasted half my life on School
-Nikky
ETA- And if the world is gonna end in 2012, Ive wasted half my life on School
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Last year I went to Mexico and explored Mayan ruins. We had our picture taken with one of the calendar tablets. For those who don't know, they are big stone, about 4'tall with lots of runes and symbols carved on them.
Our tour guide was funny, he said the tablets don't say the world is ending, if they did he would be with his family not showing a bunch of strangers around ruins on a hot day
He thought it was more likely that they ran out of room, didn't want to prepare another stone, or, perhaps, something happened to them before they could get to the next stone (which is highly likely)
I don't worry about next year, I just try and take care of today. My dad passed away at an early age after a brief illness, you never know if you are going to have a tomorrow, a next week or a next year. It's possible we could have and economic or environmental collapse. I will take each day as it comes, I'm resourceful and skilled at providing for my family, I don't expect that to change.
Much like Y2K, I think 2012 is much ado about nothing.
Our tour guide was funny, he said the tablets don't say the world is ending, if they did he would be with his family not showing a bunch of strangers around ruins on a hot day
He thought it was more likely that they ran out of room, didn't want to prepare another stone, or, perhaps, something happened to them before they could get to the next stone (which is highly likely)
I don't worry about next year, I just try and take care of today. My dad passed away at an early age after a brief illness, you never know if you are going to have a tomorrow, a next week or a next year. It's possible we could have and economic or environmental collapse. I will take each day as it comes, I'm resourceful and skilled at providing for my family, I don't expect that to change.
Much like Y2K, I think 2012 is much ado about nothing.
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We will not know when the end of the world will be here until it is actually upon us. The Bible tells us that He will come like theif in the night. I know I am prepared for the end of time, and I am a survivor too. I just hope that you are actually prepared for the END of time. No man but yourself can prepare you for that. Just you and God.
as for the 2012 thing- I don't believe it and came across this the other day. thought it was cute:
We will not know when the end of the world will be here until it is actually upon us. The Bible tells us that He will come like theif in the night. I know I am prepared for the end of time, and I am a survivor too. I just hope that you are actually prepared for the END of time. No man but yourself can prepare you for that. Just you and God.
as for the 2012 thing- I don't believe it and came across this the other day. thought it was cute:
The only end of the world I see is the Zombie Apocalypse. Nothing more. And even then, I know it's most likely not gonna happen. I'm prepared for anything. Even idiots that want the world to end.
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