2018 Newbie Chat!

[Anna Ranieri]

I have learned a long time ago to acclimate every animal to loud noises, fireworks, thunder, etc. As pups I would stand out there in the rain waiting for thunder while we played fetch(as long as lightning wasn't involved) I have two that have gotten more nervous as they got older(7-8). I will give them some melatonin early in the evening so they are relaxed. Did not do that last night, but we were ok. As for the chickens and ducks? They have also been acclimated--lawn mowers, blowers, weed wackers, drills, saws and now even vacuums.

I am not a fan of the debris. I worry about both ingestion and Fire.

I agree and mine are used to most noises, including cars and the biggest noise is the tarpaulin when its windy, they are even used to loud music blaring but we rarely get thunder, can't remember the last time we had thunder its been so long and the trouble with fireworks is that although people go crazy with them on bonfire night and the weeks around it, same with New Years, people don't really use them around here outside of those two events, November was their first time encountering them and all has been quiet until the recent ones - there are none going off at all now - so I didn't have a way to introduce them to the fireworks.
They started the day today a bit unsettled and from about mid-morning, slept practically the whole day, whether this is anything to do with the onslaught of fireworks last night or not I don't know. This evening when I turned on my outside light (which I use so the birds can stay out longer when dark, if they want to) the bulb went and I don't have a replacement until tomorrow, so I had to put them to bed early and I worried they might not be able to sleep having been asleep the majority of the day, but they went to bed easy and settled swiftly and were asleep in moments, I really hope this isn't them coming down with illness although other than being sleepy and sleeping this much, no one is showing any signs of illness so I'm hoping it is just the unsettlement of the fireworks making them tired - really hope they aren't going to get ill

 

[Anna Ranieri]

I agree and mine are used to most noises, including cars and the biggest noise is the tarpaulin when its windy, they are even used to loud music blaring but we rarely get thunder, can't remember the last time we had thunder its been so long and the trouble with fireworks is that although people go crazy with them on bonfire night and the weeks around it, same with New Years, people don't really use them around here outside of those two events, November was their first time encountering them and all has been quiet until the recent ones - there are none going off at all now - so I didn't have a way to introduce them to the fireworks.
They started the day today a bit unsettled and from about mid-morning, slept practically the whole day, whether this is anything to do with the onslaught of fireworks last night or not I don't know. This evening when I turned on my outside light (which I use so the birds can stay out longer when dark, if they want to) the bulb went and I don't have a replacement until tomorrow, so I had to put them to bed early and I worried they might not be able to sleep having been asleep the majority of the day, but they went to bed easy and settled swiftly and were asleep in moments, I really hope this isn't them coming down with illness although other than being sleepy and sleeping this much, no one is showing any signs of illness so I'm hoping it is just the unsettlement of the fireworks making them tired - really hope they aren't going to get ill

Lol, I just posted this and I can now hear my ducks chattering - they don't sleep through the whole night anyway but I just found it comical that they have awoken just as I posted this saying about them excessively sleeping. No noise from the chickens though but I don't expect there will be as they remain quiet all night until I let them out in the morning and even then they don't really say much, they usually start chatting after they've had their get out of bed treat.

 

[PNW_Peepers]

Bad news. Three of my eggs quit during incubation and the other four weren’t fertilized. 7/7 in the compost. Stuck in another 7 eggs today, I candled them all beforehand and none are porous. Fingers crossed these ones are fertilized.

 

[CannedMonster]

Bad news. Three of my eggs quit during incubation and the other four weren’t fertilized. 7/7 in the compost. Stuck in another 7 eggs today, I candled them all beforehand and none are porous. Fingers crossed these ones are fertilized.

If you’re willing to crack one you could check for the bullseye that shows it’s fertilized.
Sometimes I look for that when I crack them for breakfast in the morning.
Just to be sure Angus is doing his job lol.

 

[CannedMonster]

Guys I just need to vent about something that is making me very upset!

I gave my friend a couple of my cockerels over the summer because I didn’t want them fighting with each other and I didn’t want my larger Naked Necks to hurt the bantam roos if they fought.
I gave her my original rooster, Hector, a beautiful dark Brahma and later I also gave her Frodo my black bantam Cochin.
I took Frodo back from her in October because he had been ill for a couple of months and just wouldn’t get better.
I thought we could help him more since we didn’t work as much and could take him to the vet if needed.
I treated him with Corid for possible coccidiosis but he failed to improve.
I’m now treating him for worms.

On Sunday I saw my friend and she told me that Hector had an accident and she didn’t know if he would survive.
She said that he had wandered into her cow area (it’s not a pasture as there’s no grass) and because it wasn’t frozen anymore he sunk down into the manure and was stuck there all night!
Apparently he struggled a lot to free himself and may have injured his leg.
She had looked for him everywhere but never thought he would be out there.
They finally found him the next morning and she bathed him and blow dried him and put him next to the wood stove to warm him up.
He wouldn’t eat or drink.
I was very disturbed to hear this!
I asked her how he was today and she said he didn’t make it.

I just have no words...
She has had so many animals die on her property in the year I’ve known her that I’m simply flabbergasted by it.
And Hector had other close calls where he could’ve died but didn’t.
Like her husband found him floating in the stock tank and fished him out.
I just don’t understand why she can’t create a safer environment for them or rehome them.
Every time I talk to her she tells me about another animal that died; cat, chickens, ducks, etc.

 

[Anna Ranieri]

Guys I just need to vent about something that is making me very upset!

I gave my friend a couple of my cockerels over the summer because I didn’t want them fighting with each other and I didn’t want my larger Naked Necks to hurt the bantam roos if they fought.
I gave her my original rooster, Hector, a beautiful dark Brahma and later I also gave her Frodo my black bantam Cochin.
I took Frodo back from her in October because he had been ill for a couple of months and just wouldn’t get better.
I thought we could help him more since we didn’t work as much and could take him to the vet if needed.
I treated him with Corid for possible coccidiosis but he failed to improve.
I’m now treating him for worms.

On Sunday I saw my friend and she told me that Hector had an accident and she didn’t know if he would survive.
She said that he had wandered into her cow area (it’s not a pasture as there’s no grass) and because it wasn’t frozen anymore he sunk down into the manure and was stuck there all night!
Apparently he struggled a lot to free himself and may have injured his leg.
She had looked for him everywhere but never thought he would be out there.
They finally found him the next morning and she bathed him and blow dried him and put him next to the wood stove to warm him up.
He wouldn’t eat or drink.
I was very disturbed to hear this!
I asked her how he was today and she said he didn’t make it.

I just have no words...
She has had so many animals die on her property in the year I’ve known her that I’m simply flabbergasted by it.
And Hector had other close calls where he could’ve died but didn’t.
Like her husband found him floating in the stock tank and fished him out.
I just don’t understand why she can’t create a safer environment for them or rehome them.
Every time I talk to her she tells me about another animal that died; cat, chickens, ducks, etc.

Ohhh hun, no wonder you are upset, this is awful. Those poor animals - and poor Hector!
Is there an animal welfare organisation you could report her to - anonymously so's not to cause friction nor to jeopardise your friendship?
I've known of cases such as this over here where people were concerned for the welfare of some animals but didn't want to lose the friendship so reported anonymously. It turned out to be pure ignorance on the animals owners part and the organisation helped her to sort all out. In the other situation I know of though, it was a case of intentional animal cruelty and this person is banned from keeping animals now.
Its understandable if you don't want to get involved, these situations can be tricky especially concerning friends, this is just a suggestion

 

[Cbarr00]

Guys I just need to vent about something that is making me very upset!

I gave my friend a couple of my cockerels over the summer because I didn’t want them fighting with each other and I didn’t want my larger Naked Necks to hurt the bantam roos if they fought.
I gave her my original rooster, Hector, a beautiful dark Brahma and later I also gave her Frodo my black bantam Cochin.
I took Frodo back from her in October because he had been ill for a couple of months and just wouldn’t get better.
I thought we could help him more since we didn’t work as much and could take him to the vet if needed.
I treated him with Corid for possible coccidiosis but he failed to improve.
I’m now treating him for worms.

On Sunday I saw my friend and she told me that Hector had an accident and she didn’t know if he would survive.
She said that he had wandered into her cow area (it’s not a pasture as there’s no grass) and because it wasn’t frozen anymore he sunk down into the manure and was stuck there all night!
Apparently he struggled a lot to free himself and may have injured his leg.
She had looked for him everywhere but never thought he would be out there.
They finally found him the next morning and she bathed him and blow dried him and put him next to the wood stove to warm him up.
He wouldn’t eat or drink.
I was very disturbed to hear this!
I asked her how he was today and she said he didn’t make it.

I just have no words...
She has had so many animals die on her property in the year I’ve known her that I’m simply flabbergasted by it.
And Hector had other close calls where he could’ve died but didn’t.
Like her husband found him floating in the stock tank and fished him out.
I just don’t understand why she can’t create a safer environment for them or rehome them.
Every time I talk to her she tells me about another animal that died; cat, chickens, ducks, etc.

I'm so sorry for your loss. I know it must be so upsetting to hear this when you gave him away because you cared about him. This is why I cant give Bear up just yet.

I agree with Anna tho. It just seems like maybe this person is more of an animal hoarder than lover. But then again I dont know all the facts. I'm just going off my own experiences when I have seen people have lots of animals but don't actually want the responsibility of them.

 

[No More Empty Nest]

Guys I just need to vent about something that is making me very upset!

I gave my friend a couple of my cockerels over the summer because I didn’t want them fighting with each other and I didn’t want my larger Naked Necks to hurt the bantam roos if they fought.
I gave her my original rooster, Hector, a beautiful dark Brahma and later I also gave her Frodo my black bantam Cochin.
I took Frodo back from her in October because he had been ill for a couple of months and just wouldn’t get better.
I thought we could help him more since we didn’t work as much and could take him to the vet if needed.
I treated him with Corid for possible coccidiosis but he failed to improve.
I’m now treating him for worms.

On Sunday I saw my friend and she told me that Hector had an accident and she didn’t know if he would survive.
She said that he had wandered into her cow area (it’s not a pasture as there’s no grass) and because it wasn’t frozen anymore he sunk down into the manure and was stuck there all night!
Apparently he struggled a lot to free himself and may have injured his leg.
She had looked for him everywhere but never thought he would be out there.
They finally found him the next morning and she bathed him and blow dried him and put him next to the wood stove to warm him up.
He wouldn’t eat or drink.
I was very disturbed to hear this!
I asked her how he was today and she said he didn’t make it.

I just have no words...
She has had so many animals die on her property in the year I’ve known her that I’m simply flabbergasted by it.
And Hector had other close calls where he could’ve died but didn’t.
Like her husband found him floating in the stock tank and fished him out.
I just don’t understand why she can’t create a safer environment for them or rehome them.
Every time I talk to her she tells me about another animal that died; cat, chickens, ducks, etc.

How horrible! I'm so sorry Maybe she has more than she can handle, whether too many animals or too much on her mind or too many other things to do in her life right now. I definitely wouldn't consider her for taking any other roos you may end up with.
Poor Hector. My heart goes out to you.

 

[CannedMonster]

Well guys...Frodo died today.
My husband found him in his crate this afternoon.
He wasn’t eating much the last couple of days and wouldn’t move around much.

This is hard because we both have become very fond of our little special needs guy.
DH was always bringing him things he thought Frodo would like to eat.
I don’t know what to do about his body. The ground is frozen and we can’t bury him right now.
I’d like to have a necropsy done so I know what happened to him but I haven’t been able to get a lot of information about it from our state Agriculture website.


As for my friend...yes she has a lot going on with an abusive husband and a 13 year old son. Plus she works two jobs because her husband doesn’t want her to be at home or do animal type things as an income.
But with all these things I think the animals are her way of feeling loved and needed but I don’t think she really can cope with it all.
It’s getting out of hand with her working now and unable to put in the kind of time she used to.
I can’t do anything even anonymously because it’s a small town and all her other friends have known her for years.
Plus I don’t need her unstable husband coming after us.
I’m never going to give her anymore animals though.
I just can’t do that.

On a lighter note...we got 6 eggs today and one was a beautiful green first egg from Taka my EE!

 

[Anna Ranieri]

Well guys...Frodo died today.
My husband found him in his crate this afternoon.
He wasn’t eating much the last couple of days and wouldn’t move around much.

This is hard because we both have become very fond of our little special needs guy.
DH was always bringing him things he thought Frodo would like to eat.
I don’t know what to do about his body. The ground is frozen and we can’t bury him right now.
I’d like to have a necropsy done so I know what happened to him but I haven’t been able to get a lot of information about it from our state Agriculture website.


As for my friend...yes she has a lot going on with an abusive husband and a 13 year old son. Plus she works two jobs because her husband doesn’t want her to be at home or do animal type things as an income.
But with all these things I think the animals are her way of feeling loved and needed but I don’t think she really can cope with it all.
It’s getting out of hand with her working now and unable to put in the kind of time she used to.
I can’t do anything even anonymously because it’s a small town and all her other friends have known her for years.
Plus I don’t need her unstable husband coming after us.
I’m never going to give her anymore animals though.
I just can’t do that.

On a lighter note...we got 6 eggs today and one was a beautiful green first egg from Taka my EE!
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Ohhhhh hun So sorry you lost Frodo, as we all know it's never easy when you lose such a precious but hun you and your dh did your best for him and gave him longer to live than would have been had you not taken him from your friend and I hope you and your dh can find solace in this.
I'm no expert at all but from what you've been sharing about his symptoms, I'm wondering if he might have had a tumour or a type of cancer, my reason being that his symptoms seem to match such. Hopefully you'll be able to find out soon and put your mind at rest.
As for your friend, makes sense that she is unable to care for her animals adequately and by the sounds of it I'm sure she's doing the best she can under her circumstances and might even be that she wants her property made safer but doesn't have the backing of her husband which as we alĺ know makes things so much harder. Let's hope the animals she has remaining have come accustomed to the dangers and will steer clear from now on. However I'm sure we all agree that getting rid of her abusive husband would be the best way to go!
I for one totally understand your reluctance to report the unsafe environment her animals are kept in, the last thing you need is such trouble falling on your doorstep! As much as we all feel sad for her animals you have your own animals welfare to think of as well as your own.
Congrats on the beautiful egg, really is a lovely colour as are all your eggs pictured here. Your girls are doing you proud.