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A BEE thread....for those interested in beekeeping.

Genetics play a big role in temperament but there are other factors such as the size of the colony.... small colonies just setting up home are usually quite placid but can change once they get up to full strength in their second year. Time of year and weather conditions also play a part. My bees are placid most of the year but approaching swarming season they get tetchy especially once the queen has stopped laying and there are juvenile bees with no nursemaid duties. It seems like they get promoted to guard duties too quickly and are overly enthusiastic about it! Imagine giving teenage boys a gun and telling them they can be police for the day
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Also bees are sensitive to barometric pressure, so an approaching storm/unsettled weather can make them grumpy.

Also, I do think that if you live closely with your bees they get to know you. My hives are all within 15 feet of my back door. They see me come and go every day. I almost always have my stable work clothes/jodhpurs on which smell of horses which bees are not supposed to like, but they don't bother me. I can hunker down in front of the entrances in these clothes and the bees take off and land straight over my head without looking at me. If I get a visitor to my apiary and we stand at the back door discussing the hives for more than a few minutes, a bee will come and check out the strangers, hovering in front of their face, usually inquisitive but sometimes menacing, which is slightly embarrassing.

Having had bad reactions to multiple stings in the face from someone else's hives (face swelled up and both eyes closed for 2 days) I now wear a beeproof suit for inspections but prefer to work with bare hands whenever possible, although I always have my gloves near by. I don't mind the odd sting in the hands and actually believe it is beneficial, but sometimes one sting can trigger other bees to attack and multiple stings in my hands/arms might become debilitating, so best to be on the safe side at least until you get to know your bees learn to read their mood.

The place most people forget to protect is their ankles, especially if they have trousers on as their feet are often below the level of the hive. I have had some of my worst reactions to stings in that area and again multiple stings can be very debilitating. Be particularly careful to avoid dark woolly socks, in fact dark woolly clothing in general. Make sure to tuck trousers into boots not over the top. Bees land and crawl upwards generally, so if they land on your foot and your trousers are not tucked in, it can be quite a distraction in the middle of an inspection to suddenly feel a tickle half way up your leg and no safe way to remove the culprit before it gets nipped and stings.

I would be particularly wary of harvesting honey without my suit as bees can smell honey from long distances and some honey cells always get broken in removing honey comb from the hive which releases the smell and can rapidly lead to robbing, especially if there is more than one colony in the vicinity and/or wasps/yellow jackets. Not having protective gear on when there is the potential for robbing to be triggered is a little cavalier in my opinion.
 
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I dont have a problem with getting stung by bee's.. I too want a bee hive.. at work in the warm weather.. we have a trash can for people to throw soda and beer away and its outside.... the bee's swarm this trash can. my workers always have me empty it.. i just walk up very calm and start lifting the trash bag up..25-50 fly out of the bag and just fly around me.. i gently move the bag around to get all the bees out before i throw it away.. my co workers always watch lol from a distance with amazement that im not getting stung. Thats when i decided to be a bee keeper.. i believe i will be great at it..
 
Thank you, everyone for the advice. I'm really hoping to get some bees during this year. The oddest thing is that I have always been fairly scared of bees.....now I need to become one with the bees, lol. I am going to find out if there are any workshops around that I would be willing to drive to. Do. Not. Want. To. Drive. In. Charlottesville. Lol..i go there for spinning, but mostly I can ride with a friend who has room for an extra spinning wheel in her vehicle. But surely there will be something on this side of the mountain. I'm going to call the bee supply store in a few minutes and see if they know of any classes nearby.
 
@Tara2.... it's great that you are so comfortable around bees and release/remove them from the rubbish bag before disposal.... Do be aware though that bees out foraging are not interested in stinging.... it's not their job.... they are only there to collect food/water etc unless you nip them of course. However at the hive, there are bees that have a role as guards to protect the colony and stores and they are more likely to sting. It is always best to remember that one sting is not really an issue unless you are allergic, but 5 or more stings could incapacitate you. Bees evolved to see off large predators like bears by attacking as a team and they have a tendency to go for the face and eyes. Also, the pheromone released by one sting encourages others to attack, so it is always wise to acknowledge the risk of doing an inspection without protection and understand how and why they attack.

Having experienced really defensive bees her in the UK a couple of times I can tell you that, even for an experienced beekeeper of 16 years, it can be really intimidating despite wearing full protective gear and I believe that without it my life would have been in real danger on those occasions. So please don't underestimate bees or your own ability to withstand them. In the USA you also have to consider Africanised bees may be an issue in some states, so do be wary about handling your bee colony when you get it and use appropriate protection until you get to know them.

Mostly though bees will be relatively docile especially if you are calm and slow and quiet when you are handling them.

Best wishes to you both with your forthcoming beekeeping endeavours.

Regards

Barbara
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My first Top Bar hive was partly made from a kit ordered from Gold Star Honeybees, you can get the hardware and the more complicated wood (followers and bars), and then use your own wood for the rest. It comes with complete plans, so you can build more on your own if you want. It was very good quality, and very helpful as I had not done a project like that before. Took only an afternoon to build the whole thing.

 
I stopped today and talked to the lady near me who keeps bees. She has her hives protected like Fort Knox with electric fencing. So I would have to save the money for the electric fence and other needed electrical stuff....also money for the hive and then for the actual bees. My biggest concern is this....I can save the money if I really want to do this BUT....if the honey draws bears will they be attracted to my chickens? I don't want to put them in danger.
 
And I didn't include the cost of any other bee keeping equipment like a veil or whatever. One of my books says you can keep bees with a topbar hive and a sharp knife.

The lady I spoke with had two hives in her kitchen that she said would not have survived outside. She had ducts thru the wall so they could go outside. In a new house. My kind of person...
 

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