A Bielefelder Thread !

[TNBielefelder]

Candy442 I totally understand your frustration!! As difficult as the process is to make the Bielefelder an APA recognized breed we may never see it. It will definitely take a unified commitment and if a club is never organized of APA members for this breed then it will never take place.
As far as breeding to the German standard it has been difficult to find a written standard in English. Bine was nice enough to translate it and I even used translation Apps that didn't really work that well but the pictures that were provided spoke volumes. In The Roosters the Crele pattern should really stand out each color covers certain parts of the body and should be distinctive. I think this is lacking in the USA birds from what I've seen. Also the combs on our USA Rossters do not seem to be as full I think they lack height..
If you have some Breeding roosters that are good in these areas and have nice body shape I am interested in some hatching eggs or around 10 Roo chicks to find my next breeder.

 

[Chickielady]

I've read just about everything I could on Bieles that was available online before I acquired the breed and never realized they were hybrids. I know they were created from a few different breeds and now I know that is considered a hybrid. Thank you for explaining this.

My apologies to you Chickielady if my post came off as sarcastic. I actually thought you were being sarcastic in your reply to my post about fluff. So I'm very sorry. Don't worry about the Cochin link and my condolences to you for your health.

When you get around Poultry long enough, and study each breed enough, you will realize that just about ALL of them in a hybridized mix os some other breeds, designed for a specific purpose or to suvive & flourish in some specific place.
ALL American "Breeds" as far as I have researched, are hybridized from Jungle Fowl & ancient breeds from China, to Java, etc.
Most of the "American" breeds are all containing either Plymouth Rock, Wyandotte or Orpington bloodlines, or a mix of more than one plus others from around the world.
The bielefelder is brand new, only a few years old, and designed specifically for the purpose it's engineers wanted.
It is a beautiful breed, and produces extra large eggs, they are docile, and easy to be around, and heavy, making it a good "dual purpose" breed and no doubt excellent for Caponizing.
Their feathers, specifically their hackle, has attracted a few fly tiers, including myself, as the barring makes a great distinction in flies.
So far, the breed also has done fairly well in bouts of hot weather, up to 100 degrees for a few weeks at a night, cooling off to 60s at night (here) and long wet winters dotted with snow to 12" and temps that dive to 20 (thereabouts) and stay there for weeks at a time.
They are also easy to feed, not picky, they do graze well and are happy to take care of left over veggies and squash.
But like I said, they are relatively new.
There is actually very very few "pure" foundation breeds left in the world.
Apologies accepted, and my disease is merely Lupus, so some days I am very tired, and some days I am OK................................

 

[Chickielady]

Candy442 I totally understand your frustration!! As difficult as the process is to make the Bielefelder an APA recognized breed we may never see it. It will definitely take a unified commitment and if a club is never organized of APA members for this breed then it will never take place.
As far as breeding to the German standard it has been difficult to find a written standard in English. Bine was nice enough to translate it and I even used translation Apps that didn't really work that well but the pictures that were provided spoke volumes. In The Roosters the Crele pattern should really stand out each color covers certain parts of the body and should be distinctive. I think this is lacking in the USA birds from what I've seen. Also the combs on our USA Rossters do not seem to be as full I think they lack height..
If you have some Breeding roosters that are good in these areas and have nice body shape I am interested in some hatching eggs or around 10 Roo chicks to find my next breeder.

It has taken how many years to get Marans in the APA ? And that said, they still have years to go accepting every coloration !
It could take a decade or longer getting Biels in...

 

[speedy2020]

Does anyone has Bielefelder rooster that dark as this one from the link below?
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/grd/5223083836.html

 

[Zinniah]

Does anyone has Bielefelder rooster that dark as this one from the link below?
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/grd/5223083836.html

very handsome rooster, i hopes it a real bielefelder. Ive never seen anything like it, his feet are pale and the tail feathers are odd

 

[TNBielefelder]

Does anyone has Bielefelder rooster that dark as this one from the link below?
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/grd/5223083836.html

That Rooster appears to be a Bielefelder mixed with something else. This is not German standard coloring but he is a nice looking bird.

 

[Zinniah]

Does anyone has Bielefelder rooster that dark as this one from the link below?
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/grd/5223083836.html

I think the coloring comes from rhode island red chickens, the person seems to keep them in the same pen...

 

[LowerBamaMama]

Would a Biel f1 cross be auto sexing? I'm sure there's more factors for a yes no answer but basically what would you have to cross with to preserve the auto sexing gene

 

[Bine]

Would a Biel f1 cross be auto sexing? I'm sure there's more factors for a yes no answer but basically what would you have to cross with to preserve the auto sexing gene

I think this could work with the autosexing colors of other breeds like Niederrheiner yellow crele.







Here a guy from the netherlands has made a great little tool to calculate the most common colors.

Does anyone has Bielefelder rooster that dark as this one from the link below?
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/grd/5223083836.html

He is a nice boy for sure, but if you want to breed to the Standard, the color is not the only problem with him...the tail is not only in the wrong color, it is much too high, not compact and in the wrong angle....
the middle part of the body looks too short and not that cylindric and his chest is not as deep as it should be. O/c this could be only be the foto's angle. It is always better to have a the bird in front of you. His legs and beak are greyish, they should be yellow.
The comb sits not well, the last part doesn't follow the headline that much. ....
So not the best bird to work on the breed, but if you want a boy for a mixed flock with a docil temp. he may be your man.

If you compare him with this young man...can you see what I mean?

 

[TNBielefelder]

I think this could work with the autosexing colors of other breeds like Niederrheiner yellow crele. [COLOR=B42000] [/COLOR] Here a guy from the netherlands has made a great little tool to calculate the most common colors. He is a nice boy for sure, but if you want to breed to the Standard, the color is not the only problem with him...the tail is not only in the wrong color, it is much too high, not compact and in the wrong angle.... the middle part of the body looks too short and not that cylindric and his chest is not as deep as it should be. O/c this could be only be the foto's angle. It is always better to have a the bird in front of you. His legs and beak are greyish, they should be yellow. The comb sits not well, the last part doesn't follow the headline that much. .... So not the best bird to work on the breed, but if you want a boy for a mixed flock with a docil temp. he may be your man. If you compare him with this young man...can you see what I mean?

Bine is the Bielefelder in the video to triangle shaped in the rear? His back and tail flow straight back.