A century of Turkey talk 2000-2100.

[Flashpoint]

If the white (c) gene came from a BBW, it would explain his size.

That has always been my concern although not confirmed. Another reason to see if I can find out for certain. According to Porter's, an Oregon Gray can weigh up to 33lbs. Tommie has to be close to that - at least in my opinion and my difficulty in trying to pick him up straight off the ground. Of course, I also take into consideration that I am somewhat "ancient" and that might be the biggest problem.


I haven't figured out quite yet how to get him on a scale.

 

[Flashpoint]

phenotype
[ˈfēnəˌtīp]
NOUN
biology
the set of observable characteristics of an individual resulting from the interaction of its genotype with the environment.
So it has observable characteristics of an oregon gray. Could maybe be a frosted oregon gray which has a red gene bb cgc nn Rr
Kind of like all tri color palms are characterized as calico with the appearance of each possibly being different depending on how the genes interact.
Just my thoughts.

Fred - and makes sense to me as someone who hasn't a clue on the genetics yet. I AM trying to get a handle on it.

My turkey experience is somewhat limited to the 4 large turkeys I've had for two years and the 4 midget whites I hatched out a couple of months ago. NONE of them look alike such as Tommie in this discussion.

Iron - my other large tom

The midget whites - are at least "White" lol

So far I think I have 2 hens and 2 toms - and they are now a whole 11 weeks old approx. However, from what I can observe so far, they seem to be maturing faster than the other turkeys did.

 

[memphis]

Flash....those little guys are just darling!

 

[Flashpoint]

Flash....those little guys are just darling!

Thank you, Memphis! So far they have been as sweet as they can be. Right now, they remind me of basketballs with legs. lol. The toms are strutting and displaying. Then hens will lay down as soon as I touch their backs. They all seem to enjoy being picked up and willingly sit on my knee.

Now that the weather is supposed to be milder starting tomorrow, I may get brave enough to start taking them on a "walkabout" - one at a time. Eventually, I hope to do as a group - and then maybe let them out with the hen turkeys.

Which is something else. The two girls - Brandie and Goldie are showing an extreme interest in them. Especially Goldie - and maybe because she had the other poults. Goldie will spend all day hanging around the outside of the pen - and Brandie comes and goes.

I let Goldie in for a few minutes the other day and she did pretty well with them. She ate with them and didn't "attack" anyone. However, after about 10 minutes, she did start popping a couple in the head, so I took her out. I know there will be a pecking order needed to be established, but I can wait until the MW's are a little bigger.

I don't want anyone with premature brain damage at this stage. I have enough "crazies" that run through here as it is. (Hint: They are not birds)

 

[FredsGobblers]

as soon as my camera battery is charged I will get a pic of the oregon gray I got from Porters. No idea on weight, I may try to weigh tomorrow when I crate him to take to auction.

 

[R2elk]

phenotype
[ˈfēnəˌtīp]
NOUN
biology
the set of observable characteristics of an individual resulting from the interaction of its genotype with the environment.
So it has observable characteristics of an oregon gray. Could maybe be a frosted oregon gray which has a red gene bb cgc nn Rr
Kind of like all tri color palms are characterized as calico with the appearance of each possibly being different depending on how the genes interact.
Just my thoughts.

I let it slide right over my head that Porter was saying an Oregon Gray phenotype which is not the same as saying an Oregon Gray. In the past he has used this terminology to describe even Royal Palms. It basically means that it has black and white features and the tail band. This leaves a lot of leeway as to what it can actually be.

 

[duluthralphie]

I let it slide right over my head that Porter was saying an Oregon Gray phenotype which is not the same as saying an Oregon Gray. In the past he has used this terminology to describe even Royal Palms. It basically means that it has black and white features and the tail band. This leaves a lot of leeway as to what it can actually be.

It makes a person seem smarter than saying “I dunno”

 

[Flashpoint]

as soon as my camera battery is charged I will get a pic of the oregon gray I got from Porters. No idea on weight, I may try to weigh tomorrow when I crate him to take to auction.

Thanks, Fred - would love to see!

 

[Flashpoint]

I let it slide right over my head that Porter was saying an Oregon Gray phenotype which is not the same as saying an Oregon Gray. In the past he has used this terminology to describe even Royal Palms. It basically means that it has black and white features and the tail band. This leaves a lot of leeway as to what it can actually be.

Well, I guess there is something to be said about consistent inconsistency. LOL

All I can say is that the photos I've seen in the past 36 hours are closer to what I have than the others.

As soon as I can get DD to take me down, perhaps the situation will clear itself up. Right now she's having to work every day (literally) and I am not sure how long before she gets a day off again. Hopefully within the next week or two.

 

[Flashpoint]

It makes a person seem smarter than saying “I dunno”

You mean like saying "Well, it's a blue square, but it kinda looks like an orange" ?